Good job for ruining the game with your new Meta BHVR

I could be wrong, but I heard no such complains during the PTB... at least not as vocal. This isn't dismissive, but I wanna point out this issue in itself:

There's very few people that try to break the game during ptb. A lot of players don't even try out such combos. granted, the ptb is an overhyped advertisement and not much a testing ground, lbr, and doesn't much allow for such testing.

That said, who wants to bet 'Potential Energy' is gonna get nerfed to the ground before NtH is because of it's one hyper-specific extremely-situational use?

The devs will cave. They've always done this and the killers suffered because of it. Dead hard is still in the game... Otr... COH SHOULD NOT BE IN THE GAME... ETC

I started playing camping bubba again yesterday. Easily 2K and throw on NOED, 3K and even 4K at times! I don't even care anymore.

That both sides have busted stuff and you only want to see one side of it

I do understand

I hope you don't mind but i'd argue against the first couple points you are making. for context, i usually play solo queue survivor running non meta or as little meta as possible. because i personally think that variety is what makes this game fun; seeing both killers and survivors with wierd and wonderful builds prevents a 'stale game'. i want to state here that im not saying 'hurr durr your wrong cuz killer' but instead give what i've seen as a solo queue survivor (jeff main too) so debate what you claim.

firstly, 12 health states. i assume you mean health to injured to endurance hit. i personally have seen a sharp downfall in people using endurance hits, mainly dead hard (affectionately called 'dab hard' by people i occasionally play with) since it had its nerf from distance + effective health state to just a health state. now it is far more imperative to wait it out, and since it only lasts a second it cant really be used to extend chases unless in the right hands. out of the games ive played recently, only a small handful of players ive been with really use it. maybe its due to a difference in MMR, in which case its not really a problem with the perk per se, or even the idea of endurance hits, and more about the still small pool of perks used in higher MMR, something the perk overhaul attempted to fix. either way, the only other attempts to get endurance hits are scarce and highly telegraphed. someone healed mid chase? purple medkit addon. someones taking protection hits out of nowhere? could be mettle of man. the other meta way is off the record, which is only through the unhook and disappears after any real game affecting action. if your allowing a survivor to use OTR as another health state, then it could be the playstyle that you are using that is causing the 12 health states you describe.

secondly, pre-dropping. quick one as above is a mouthful. pre-drop is a double edged sword for survivors: gets distance but removes a pallet. can be frustrating on some maps such as Gideons, but that comes down to something both players can control via map offerings (or not because of map RNG). some killers like nemesis at tier 2, doctor, possibly pyramid head etc. almost require pre-drops. from the casual solo queue, i personally cannot loop that well and if its going downhill, i pre drop which usually results in a health state for me. once again, could be an MMR issue as ive seen far better players loop pallets instead of pre-drop. comes down to the player.

rushing gens with BNP (brand new part) and prove thyself. personally, i use fogwise in an aura build because i suck at chases and dont particularly want to be face camped or tunnelled out of the game, so avoiding the killer is my best bet. using a brand new part lets me see where and who the killer is/are, and act accordingly. no different really than using lethal persuer to see where survivors are at the start of the match (i used to use distortion to counter that, underrated perk imo). thats the heart of the argument - using perks to counter the opposite sides perks that you dont like. hate genrushing? killers are running eruption with call of brine a lot recently. survivors hate lethal persuer? run distortion. dont like protection hits? forced pennance solves that somewhat. the problems occur when one side seems to outweigh the other more than can be seen as 'fair' and that fine line is pretty hard to tightwalk across. look at the eruption + CoB situation i mentioned earlier. i feel there isnt a way to really deal with it other than making a gen finish quickly since there is no way for survivors to know when someone is going down in solo queue, so casual players are feeling frustrated that the line is tipping to killers here. however, killers are frustrated at getting 0k,1k, and occasionally 2k because of genrushing and a camping / tunnelling mentality has slowly taken a grip over some killers because they need points, and to have fun, too.

to put it simply, we shouldn't cry out about one side seemingly having the upper hand due to multiple layers of attempting to counter the current meta. instead we should be taking a step back and seeing what the broader problem is here: the game has become too focused around a singular aspect of the game because thats *all the players have*. gens are either popping too quick of killers to even play, or so slow survivors dont see any value in doing them; chases are either to short to be worth their salt or so long killers get frustrated to the point of calling it a night after a few games. no matter what nerfs or buffs come out, it all boils down to 'what part of the game is now the hardest part'. the moment it becomes the main objective, we have what you see happening in the game right now.

id like to finish with an example from this thread:

because of the current meta of genrush, killers are having to turn to tunnelling and camping to get kills, and by that regard, quest progress and BP. this has caused survivors to now genrush even harder, which in turn has caused more killers to be forced to resort to tunnelling and camping to feel like the time and stress they put into a match is worth it (i used to play clown and myers, i know what stress as killer is like). now we see solo queue players hoping that just one match they can have fun, and SWF's now being used as the example picture of survivors because they are the ones that get the most attention from killers and survivors alike.

thank you for taking the time to read this.

(merry christmas / happy holidays to all who read btw)

If so many killers are actually using Eruption and No Where to Hide then I'd recommend using Rookie Spirit and Distortion if you have them. RS will be countered by blindness, but that's an uncommon debuff in my experience. RS will show you any regressing gen once you get stacks, so you can remember which ones were regressing between each down and avoid Eruption.

I don't think it's the power level though. It's the fact that the gen kick meta is boring and makes the game less interactive. I get no complains ever in post game even though I am playing blight. The earliest death is hook 7 and most of my chases are from healthy. It's way more fun to go against a strong interactive killer playing in a more interactive manor than a weak non-interactive killer running a non-interactive build.

red - gens

Triangle - killer path

circle - area of distance from gens until the killer drops chase

Square - the map

This describes how like 30% of killer players play right now, that is boring. Sure you don't have to use eruption that way, but a lot of killers do.