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Why Myers is not the worst Killer in DBD or even bottom 5.
Often I see most streamers and/or DBD YouTubers rank Myers as the worst killer, bottom 3 killers in the game, or D tier. Which I disagree with easily because his instadown power is highly underrated especially in endgame scenarios. 3 survivors alive, all of them fully healthy, one of them procs adrenaline and makes a dash for the 99d exit gate. Majority of the killer roster would be completely screwed here and at least 2 of these survivors would escape. But because Myers can instadown in tier 3 it forces the other survivors to flee from the gate rather then open it for a free escape. If you hold your tier 3 at 99% before end game many situations like this can occur where you can turn a potential 1 of 2k into a 3 or a 4k just by using his power. Did I get lucky with all the survivors being grouped up at the same exit gate, Yes. But even so how many other killers on the roster can turn this into a 4k with this exact scenario??? Don't have to worry about body blocks either which is HUGE. I'm not saying he's A or B tier, but I always felt he sits in C tier somewhere because you never feel likes it's over at endgame if you keep your tier 3 in your back pocket when needed. With that being said his base kit is horrifically outdated and needs tweaks.
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Yeah but you're banking on those 2 survivors near the exit gate to already not be full stalk... gimmicky scenario does not make a killer not bottom 5.
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Nah, insta down stuff isn't all that threatening. Maybe for newer and more casual Survivors, but denying Michael stalking as much as possible, spreading out when in T3, don't swarm hooks if he's in T3 and looping well enough can counter him pretty well. Doubly so on bigger maps pr maps with plenty of pallets.
The only real threat Michael has is Tombstone Piece, which he can't just kill someone right away in the early game, everything else is just middle of the road for him. If he has Infinite T3, don't heal, spread out...like he can put pressure out, but it requires ya'll feeding him stalk and making risky plays while he's in T3.
Like he isn't outright garbage but he's very situational and ot as reliable or threatening against decent Survivors...playing against too reckless and too casual/new players is what people rank Killers up to in regards to their Tier placement.
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I'd say most of my games I rarely fully juice survivors out of stalk for this exact purpose.
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I understand all this and that's why I don't consider him a strong killer. My point was his endgame can guarentee kills purely on just his base kit. This exact scenario that played out in this game pretty much no other killer on the roster would have been able to turn this into a 4k. Maybe Leatherface with his chainsaw. I don't think a killer can that can turn a 0 or 1k into a 3 or 4k within seconds at a 99d exit gate is worst or bottom of the barrel like many say.
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@Dwight_Fairfield care to weigh in here?
Used to be Sepex if you remember me.
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which 5 do you put under myers then
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Having certain scenarios where Myers may perform better than higher ranked killers doesn't make Myers higher ranked. He's low ranked because he's a basic m1 killer with no global map pressure and low mobility. He even starts off the game slower than nearly every other killer and has to walk slowly over to survivors and stalk them for a while before he becomes normal speed.
He's also incredibly addon dependant. Addonless Myers is absolutely terrible.
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Clown, Trickster, Trapper, Onyro, Freddy. And I think there's a case to be made that Pig, Knight, Ghostface worse but not as much as the first 5.
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It takes mere seconds to get out of tier 1. This an overblown argument people make against Myers. It's rare to be starved badly when in tier 1 as you can sneak up on survivors and get very close a lot. Depends on the map sometimes.
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opinions are definitely opinions but it is a bit interesting that trickster is bottom 5 below pig, knight and ghostface, not even an or
😔 i think he's mid at best too but damn
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Myers is a$$ unless u running his op addons......(which nearly every Myers player does these days)
With the tombstone play with your food build he's arguably the best killer.
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With either infinite T3 or tombstone piece he is an "A" tier killer if you play him right. Otz says he's the worst if you consider no addons so that needs to be taken into consideration.
You forgot Doctor. Doc has detection not damage and his "slowdown" is a joke. He has some of the weakest antiloop in the game as it is defeated by latency. Doc often has to shock a survivor 6 times a loop vs a strong looper. This is me watching Otz/Truetalent/etc playing doctor and counting. They can play the killer nearly perfect and it just takes a lot of shocks to get a hit.
Doc is also complete garbage without the discipline addon.
Also Clown can be super deadly with Pinky Finger. Trapper with Bloody Coil on a grass map can easily be "B-" tier.
Most killers suck without addons. Nemesis is around B+ tier because he has terrible addons. If you were forced to play DBD with no addons and survivors couldn't bring items then Nemesis would be very good.
What you probably don't realize is that Michael Myers has the potential to be very good if you understand his kit and you do use a stalking addon + either of his best two addons.
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It's still a Killer-sided slowdown where on a lot of map spawns you're delayed in even getting over to where Survivors are to begin stalking.
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Most killers are indeed quite a bit weaker without addons but some are especially bad without any, and Myers along with Trapper are probably the worst for that.
Also if you bring Tombstone Piece, that addon alone does raise his rank quite a bit because it is quite possibly the -most- busted addon in the entire game, and if a similar thing existed on a strong killer, it would have been nerfed long ago. However Tombstone Piece existing doesn't stop him being an awful killer because it isnt basekit. You shouldn't need to bring a specific addon to lift a killer out of garbage-rank.
If you play Myers 'properly', that is to say with any addon combination that doesn't include Infinite t3 or the ability to mori people in t3, then he's one of the worst killers in the game. That doesn't mean he's unable to get kills; all killers in the game are 'viable' in the sense that even at higher mmr you can get kills. But comparing the power of different killers, Myers is right down at the bottom.
With Infinite t3 he's a little better, simply because you become an even better camper than Bubba, but you still have the same weaknesses of being an m1 killer who can be looped for a long time, helped only slightly by a better vault speed.
With Tombstone Piece he's lifted much higher because you can remove a couple of survivors from the game fairly early if you're lucky, but again, good survivors will make it hard to stalk them and can just hop into lockers to deny the mori, so I still wouldn't put him above maybe B-rank.
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Hyperspecifix scenario's don't make bad killers good
You say how many killers can turn that bad situation around, i say what are the chances that stronger killers are in that situation in the first place.
And even Myers with tier 3 isn't that awesome here. You're still a m1 killer. all survivors have to do is hold out a minute for tier 3 to end and it's highly likely a easy escape.
Myers has snowball potential. But against good survivors getting that bal rolling in the first plays is what makes Myers bottom 5 for me
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We get it. We don't need to see the same thread every week.
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He is bottom 5 it's silly to try argue against that. The argument is if he is the worst or not but Trapper is probably the worst.
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No, he's bottom 5 for sure.
The only reason he has a higher kill rate is because of TSP and to a lesser extent IT3.
Outside of these, Myers can be looped...almost forever. I'd have to dig up that one Otz video where he basically just got looped for the entire match on Eyrie.
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Trickster literally can't do anything with his knives at a jungle gym or any structures with line of sight corners everywhere. And he's 110% movement speed so it takes forever if you want brute force the loop.
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And you can loop a ton of the killer roster for 5 gens on that broken survivor sided map. Not just Myers lmao.
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I see a lot of streamers play Myers and say he sucks when they don't even use him right. Chasing people in tier 1, not 99ing there tier 3, staying in tier 2 at the end of the game, popping tier 3 before the down is guaranteed.
I never said he was a good killer. He's not complete trash as most say he is IF YOU PLAY HIM RIGHT.
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Otz tier list started this Myers is the worst killer train and everyone just jumped on board. Really?? He's worse then Trapper who can have all his traps disarmed and have no power all game??? He's worse then Ghostface who can be followed by 1 survivor all game and literally be revealed non stop and have no power all game?? He's worse then Trickster who you can loop at a jungle gym for 2 hours avoiding his knives and forcing him to brute force it at 110% movement speed??
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Myers is the only killer in the game with a hard cap on how much use can get out his power. That alone I think is reason to put him at/near the bottom of killer tier lists.
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Depends if you include add add ons. Permanent exposed is kind of insane.
Tbh now that it's mentioned I haven't actually seen a meyers in a match for a long time. Used to see one like every other match. Idk if it's an mmr thing.
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- Spend the start of the match earning the privilege to be an M1 killer with no power
- Spend more of the match earning your actual power
- Pop tier 3 behind someone, get that sweet sweet instadown
- Everyone else knows what the W key on their keyboard does
- You move 15% faster than a running survivor so if you even manage to catch someone else before your tier 3 ends, you spent all that time letting the first slug get healed
- It took you several minutes to get 1 meaningful down
- Rinse and repeat until you're camping your 1 kill with a 99'ed tier 3 during the endgame
- Snowmball killur
Is it any wonder any Myers worth their salt just runs Tombstone Piece these days?
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