New HUD Icons is too much info

She is the best killer, she has always been the Top Tier since she released.

That's entirely the problem. Survivors are the Dangling Carrot for the fool killers to chase endlessly. It would be fine if the game was a pure hide & seek tho since survivors wouldn't have a way out before killer can do something.

Yeah that's issue here. Decent players get even more to work with, they're now vasic SWF level. All the bad players still get a boost tho because now they know everything that is happenning without having to have experience and knowledge just look at the screen.

I'll still argue that BHVR should push for a higher skill requirement instead of a free info handout to appease SoloQ cries. The problem of SoloQ is a low skill level from players because survivor is a lower skill role.

I don't deny SoloQ needs help i just disagree with the method. The difference is how a newer player uses that info vs how someone who knows the game uses that info. Basicly how impactful the change can be, how it impacts newer players and how it impacts high skill, high experience players.

It will be somewhat helpful for newer players but it won't make them better, they still gotta learn the game by trial and error or else they'll still be in the same skill level. So the icon advantage for them is minimal which means manny survivors and manny killers will feel like nothing has changed because we're talking about players who have a smaller insight into the game.

For more experienced players it does 2 things, either the icons are irrelevant cause you already have a good understanding of the game and you can for the most part dismiss the free information provided or you're elevating your gameplay and skill and you're making even better choices. Which in turn means harder matches for killers. And how do you expect killers to react until there's some changes? They'll tunnel, more, they'll kick more gens, they'll camp more.

So in summary there's a big chance the new HUD info won't feel like it makes that big of an impact because we're talking mostly about a Casual playerbase, on both sides, but there will be cases where players will be very powerful because they have alot of free information that they've never had.

I feel and think these changes are made to help survivors individually and not collectively, does it help collectively yeah it does but i genuinly don't think that was the purpose. I always have to assume survivors are doing Gens because that's what they have to do, so wether or not there's an icon that tells me that is irrelevant since the whole objective. If DbD was a slower paced game then sure knowing that at this time someone is doing a gen would be fine but DbD is a very simple and fast game where the only Objective survivors have is doing Gens to open Gates and Escape.

So i genuinly believe this was made so that each player individually could know more because the most common problem among SoloQ is people accusing each other of being useless while most people have a smaller understanding of the game. Plus by design the game does allow some players to not participate and still feel like they won...

If you're a stealthy player that's ok, but one thing is being a stealthy players who understand how to move around and another is being a Claudette in a bush who does nothing for anyone.

Something this changes does is give the players that don't do anything at all a way to justify that they're not doing anything. If i see 3 gen icons then theres 3 people working on gens right? So i can assume i don't need to be working on a gen and i can go do something else, like i said DbD is a fast paced game, 3 people working on gens will make the game go by really fast. In 90 seconds you can be doing 3 different gens and finish them all at the same time so it shows that i'm not very needed to be on gens so i'm free to go do whatever, including doing absolutly nothing, and i'm still able to win. Wether i do something or not becomes irrelevant because the game is already going by at a very fast pace.

Even if the killer is getting multiple hooks in a small time frame that means you're all going down fast and nobody is working on gens so if im not working on a gen either and im not being hooked then im still at a good stage, i can decide to let you all die and gamble for a hatch escape, it will certainly be better odds than me attempting to do the gens alone.

This is the real issue that should be adressed, survivors are also playing against each other fighting for their own survival instead of working together to guarantee escapes.

This is soemthing i've already talked about extensively. The game should not be 1v1v1v1v1 it should be 4v1, the hud icons don't make the game 4v1 since any single survivor is still able to ignore the majority of gameplay and still escape, abandoning their supposed teammates and minimizing or completly remove interaction with the killer from the match.

I honestly believe DbD would benefit immensily from a pure Hide & Seek mode, no gens, just a 10 or 15 minute time limiter in which killers must kill everyone and Survivors simply must stay alive, the more Survivors are alive the more points everyone gets and the more Hooks a killer gets the more points he gets, this would make survivors care for each other more cause they'll be wanting to bodyblock more, they'll be wanting to do more sabos and more flashy/pallet saves, they'll want to do rescues instead of letting someone die. And killers won't be rewarded as much from tunneling since theres 3 guys who can come take hits for someone, they get no benefits from Camping cause Hook Stages won't count as Hooks interactions themselves. Thus we're giving killers who get manny Hooks a feeling that they're worthy players and that they can in fact win matches vs the killers who just get 1 hook, camp someone to death and move on to the next hook and camp or tunnel whoever managed to get unhooked.

AND above all we get rid of this Gen Regression/Gen Rush META on this mode.

Why we have no other game mode is beyond me BUT THEN RESOURCES WERE SPENT SO SOME WEIRDOS CAN SIMP OVER HUNTRESS AND SPIRIT on a romance game...