Why would BHVR do this?

I am able to see my friend's progress bars. We glance at each other's screens all the time when we play together. Glancing at his screen and seeing the bar at 50% does not feel different from hearing him say it's at 50%. Sometimes having the visual info is actually less helpful than sharing the information vocally: when one of us is being chased, looking at the other person's screen is a distraction and the vocal communication of how close the exit gate is to being open is much more helpful than me flicking my eyes for a moment to glance at his screen to see the progress bar. Hell, since the update, I've failed more than a couple skill checks because I glanced at the HUD icons to see what the other survivors were up to.

i think this one we just have to agree to disagree.

I play solo survivor more than I play in a 2-man SWF, though, and the HUD icons have been really nice in solo queue: they tell me to stop running from the killer and let myself get hooked so I can move on to a new match, because no one else has touched a gen. It's a huge time saver and I for one am really happy to know for certain when my teammates are useless rather than having to guess. In the past, I have really hated being stuck in 30+ minute games where I discovered very late that my teammates were all crouching around the edges of the map. Those were the most boring and frustrating matches and one of the big reasons I avoid playing survivor so much. The HUD icons aren't going to suddenly make me more interested in playing survivor, but so far survivor has felt less awful while I've been doing the new tome challenges because I can avoid wasting time and energy on non-participating teammates.

XD this is funny. I agree i understand and feel this a lot too. But this kind of experience you are describing is awfully familiar. Giving up seems like the worst outcome, but i will say trying hard when everyone around you is trolling feels worse. 😂 it just seems funny that the way this change helps is to give up on games not worth fighting in.

Anyway, I feel like we're having two different conversations. I wasn't talking about weak vs strong killers or anything like that in my previous post. I was simply talking numbers, just numbers: 30 killers with unique powers each balanced against either 2 different strengths of survivors or against one similarly matched group of survivors. If I were in charge of a project like that, I'd look at the numbers and I'd prioritize it the way I already stated. You are looking at this a different way and you prioritize it differently, and reading your response it feels like we're having two different discussions. Our viewpoints apparently clash.

My original response which you replied to wasn't anything more than trying to clarify what the developer stated in his post because OP didn't seem to have a clear understanding. (If I was wrong about that, then I apologize to the OP, but to me it seemed like the OP was saying things that didn't line up with what the developer said and arguing for things that the roadmap said are already coming.)

Im actually kinda pissed i didnt realize this sooner. I did reply to you replying to OP and even in that i said i dont fully agree with him. Fair play. I guess i did project a lot of my own ideas on to his, and talked as if you were contesting something i said previously. I mean all n all you were a good sport. In parting ways i will say tho, It is sad that this is kinda suppose to help SoloQ players, but really its only helping the good ones that probably need it less. Like you said those guys who aren't really trying to win they will stay the same. No amount of info will help them.

Guess you want even more people to play SWF.

Carmina will never financial recover from this

Yes and this is why solos need even more info than this. Killers complaining don't seem to understand that killers will be buffed the day solos become a lot better and can work as a real team with the info given. When this happens the game will be as balanced as it ever can be and SWF won't be that strong anymore, solos not that weak anymore and killers can beat a good SWF team one game and lose to good solos the next game. This is a win win for everyone.

This is the way!

Its quite weird that some killers wants to buff so they can play against top tier Swf relatively easy, at the same time want an option to not play against Swf.

So there is no way for people to communicate poorly, untimely or sub-optimal in any way, shape or form and as such the HUD that provides perfect information 100% of the time doesn't affect it at all... Quite...

I wish their approach to balance would either entail killers facing the same perk potentially up to 4 times OR to enforce no duplicate perks for survivors (or at the very very very least for SWFs) OR buff killers for once with something that is actually noticable in-game... Also for fun, you could listen to killers for once when they say that certain perks are broken af but I guess BHVR is too busy babysitting survivors to hear that...

I support Peanut's opinion on the topic. The new HUD is trying encourage survivors to work together and coordinate better against the killer. solq in general in my opinion generally tends to do actions more slowly and is more prone to making mistakes because they have less information to make correct plays in a given match.

For example, if a another survivor is getting chased and your working on a generator, how often do you see your teammate run into you while your working on a generator? Happens very often. Its because player getting chased is unaware of their teammate position on generators. The chase indicator is suppose to bridge this but it is not quite there yet. -Bond perk

If you get hooked, often teammate will not know who is going for hook save or whether the killer is camping hooks. Sometimes you might get 2nd hooked despite killer not being near the hook. Worse, a survivor could potentially get go from 2nd hook to 3rd hook. -Kindred perk.

This logic can extend to many other elements of the game. Healing, Cleansing a dangerous totem, Using pallets to create deadzones(which teammate may not know where they are created(Window of opportunity perk), stop regressing generators, Interacting with killer powers(such as Pinhead box, Sadako's tapes, Pig jigsaw, so on). They're trying to make soloq a lot less in the dark. Overall, losing as survivor is meant to be more enjoyable experienced. with how in the dark soloq survivor is, they're trying to improve the soloq survivor experience to be less miserable losing experience for the average survivor player.

Who said anything about upvotes in my response to you because I could care less about upvotes. You also just proved what I said in my response your being overly aggressive to anyone who doesn't share your opinion and let me set it straight YOUR ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION. No one is attacking you they just have different opinions than you and your hitting back with first passive aggressive responses and now with full aggressive responses.

In my opinion I think your over reacting to the hud update but just that it's my opinion and I'm NOT trying to change your mind.

Hey, leave us out of this.

And you are, as your name suggests, very average.

Why Solo should not have the HUD while Swf have all the info? Dont you want Killer to get buffed?

it's not solo queue vs swf, its survivor vs killer, dont know where you get this silly idea