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What do you think of "meme" addons like these?
Makes infection time 80 seconds. Doubles infection rate. And faster bp. But cannot direct vomit. Insane with the extra 30 second addon for gen guarding (110 seconds of corruption). But you have to ignore point blank vomits and chase normally unless corrupt purge.
Makes FF 20 seconds. Faster bp. But makes you slower. Stack with mural sketch for FF down incarnate.
(These are supposed to be memey addons that just so happen to make viable alternate playstyles of the character. I personally like meme addons like them. Easy to get a bunch of them and i enjoy the playstyles more)
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Addons like those two are interesting because they actually provide an alternate playstyle. Some older ones that are just straight nerfs to your power without any compensation other than bonus BP (eg. Speed Limiter, or that one Nurse addon that decreases her blink lunge range) are boring and should be reworked.
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what is alternate play-style for plague? her add-on is straight nerf to the speed at which she can infect other survivors. The legion add-on is nerf to his old add-on which is mural sketchbook that increased duration by +4 seconds. sleeping pills buffs it to 10 seconds but nerf his speed which partly undo the buff in mid-chapter in June(?) last year. Unfordunately for legion, he only has 2 add-on that give duration so he is forced to use mischief list or sleeping pills to have reliable 5 hit chances.
I think meme add-on are suppose to challenge add-on's to win without a power, but killer are overall weaker then survivors so it makes zero sense why a killer would want to weaken themselves.
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I mean 110 second infected gens is pretty nuts when pairing it with the yellow for a extra 30. Means if survivors a heavily gen enclined you can keep them infected pretty easily. And it nerfs her infection rate? No it makes it twice as fast. And Never sleep pills when paired with mural sketch you can zip around the map chaining hits for up to 20 seconds inbetween making a feature that the devs themself said is "a rare occurance" fairly consistent. So id give it a win for actually making a supposed to be rare occurance common.
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there is add-on that does same thing for 10 less seconds and has no drawback. the add-on is silly to use. instead of directly infecting the survivor. you need to throw infection at windows or pallets while chasing a survivor and make survivor believe they need to use window or pallet to infect them. its making it more time consuming for plague to infect survivors in early game.
Plague's problem in higher level of play is not infecting survivors. its getting survivor to cleanse and translating her 1vs1 into game-winning situation(when survivors cleanse).
As for Legion. I am not sure what to say about him. Sleeping pills turns him into pre-nerfed legion. by pre-nerfed I mean when legion first got nerfed in May. I am do not remember exact date, was it may 2018? or may 2019 when legion was slower and everyone thought he was worst killer in the game. Before they buffed base feral movement speed, undid his vaulting speed nerf and re-worked his legion pin, defaced pin and blindness pin add-on's. The add-on is certainly positive however his green mural sketch book was a lot better then this add-on.
If you use yellow sketch book+mischief list, you get old green sketch book across two add-on via speed and +2 second duration. I would not call sleeping pill meme add-on more so that its weird replacement to old green and yellow duration feral frenzy add-on's. I think if your using add-on to boost a play-style, then play-style is suppose to semi-reliable. Right now its only play-style available for legion, but I think that legion should have more then 1 play-style available to them and each play-style represents legion members(Frank, Julie, Susie and Joey). Before legion was gutted, the add-on for this play-style were called mural sketch book and Susies mixtape. This play-style that current legion has is Susie's play-style. I think Joey, Frank and Julie should have their play-styles work as well. Joey was suppose to be about Cold dirt+Joey tape(Cooldown legion). Frank had frank mixtape... which needed more balancing(due to low counter-play) of old legion. Julie never had any identity in legion play-style, but i think some of add-on they have currently could be centered around stealth, deception and captializing on injured, so perhaps Julies play-style could centre around this. Maybe Julie could be centered around lower legion TR the more people are injured and the whole idea of oblivious/undetectable which currently has anti-synergy with legion's killer instinct mechanic.
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I really like playing Prayer Tablet Plague. It's more fun and easier than running the Plague with their regular playstyle. That plus one of a few other addons causes survivors to hit max infections/broken very fast. They either have to run around as a one-hit down in a chase, or cleanse and give Plague the option to use Corruption to crush through health states.
For example, you can couple it with a +duration addon and puke on almost everything that a survivor can interact with to guarantee they gain large chunks of infection at a time, or combine with the addon that gives Corruption automatically every time a gen is done and spray survivors that are coming off the gens broken.
You don't have to worry much about lag causing aim issues or a survivor's ability to juke, either, which is just gravy. With the exception of Corruption, everything you're puking on is a static object. Once a survivor is quickly broken, get close, wait for them to try to 360 and smack them.
You can fake a survivor out when needed by puking on them running one way to have them turn and run the other way to a window/pallet you've already infected. The normal vile vomit doesn't actually do anything, but the reaction animation/sound is the same as if it were infecting/damaging the survivor, so during a chase most will react to that out of habit.
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She can’t infect other survivors directly with that addon but they basically have to infect themselves if they want to do gens, especially if you combine it with Haematite Seal for 110 seconds of infection. And you can still infect windows/pallets in chase as well.
For Legion, sure, Never Sleep Pills takes away some speed but you can still cover more distance overall even if survivors split up, and you still get the stacking speed boost for each hit (just not the initial increase). I’ve gotten far more frenzy downs with that addon than without. It turns something that’s normally fairly rare into something more frequent.
I don’t always use the Pills, but when I do I usually like to run it with BFFs and an endgame build (including noed, which stacks with BFFs for 8% extra speed in endgame), since Pills generally make chain hits easier, ensuring that BFFs will get enough tokens to activate.
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I use sleeping pills, but I rather have 4 second duration flat increase then 10 second increase with lower m/s.
In regard to plague, you can use limestone+seal for 90 second of infected objects and have no downside. I don't think the extra 30 seconds is that huge over 110. infecting survivors is pretty easy with plague that I do not think you need an add-on to boost it in the first place. When I played the build, it was just weird. The add-on is not really good for BP farming either. perhaps a version that would be good for BP farming is making her corrupt puke apply deep wound, so you can farm BP fast with her power without downing the survivor. Now a days, you do not need to farm BP. you can just play survivor with 100% bonus so these types of farming add-on are just filler add-on for killer that serve little to no purpose besides self-imposing bad challenges on yourself.
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You're missing that they get infected faster. So, they do gens, they get infected, they get broken, they either have to get off gen to cleanse or are doing a gen broken. And because it's faster, they either have to get off more or spend more time at risk.
Add discordance or tinkerer or something and boom, gen patrolling with de facto exposed.
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i mean you would not go on generator if you do not want to get infected in first place and there is severed toe add-on. I feel like add-on is suppose to be used in 3 gens with prophylactic amulet. Like you 3 gen and infect all gens. the survivor get infected. they go to cleanse, when all your pools are used up, you gain your power automatically and can down people at range. put them on hook, rince and repeat with gen regression perks. that is best usage i found from it and... I am not big fan of this type of gameplay. Its boring killer gameplay for me.
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So if a Plague with 110s of infection goes around and spews on a good chunk of the map, you're claiming Survivors are going to refuse to ever complete gens for fear of infection and avoid ever getting M1'd? Unlikely. It's a combo that works, and is a playstyle that depends on them... you know, wanting to win.
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I just think add-on is unnecessary for her. infecting survivor is generally not that hard in my opinion.
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I like plagues meme add on but there are not many that I do use or like.
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Hang on..other killer BP addon have an up-grade to something else?
Means while Paddle bear trap litterally does no thing. I think it should have at least Yellow stone addon effect come with it.
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They're pointless, but can provide an alternative playstyle. If you want to give yourself a challenge, equip the addon. I personally don't use them.
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Never Sleep Pills are genuinely great. Paired with Sketch Mural, the debuff is barely noticeable, and it's so much easier making chained hits with the additional time.
Definitely my favourite addon to play on Legion =)
More generally, I think meme addons that offer alternative gameplay are really interesting. You don't have to use them if you don't like them, but they're either a fun challenge or legitimately not that bad.
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Honestly in some ways the two i showed make the killer easier. Since you just have to vomit on non moving objects that remain infected for 110 seconds. And never sleep pills mural sketch gives you so much time to catchup and easily do the ff down in response to its supposedly to be a rare occurance. But not with those two lol.
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I love demos meme addon in combination with Deer Lungs
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Yeah its pretty nice
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Prayer Tablet aint a meme, its her best add-on
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I think this is exactly how meme addons should work. Open up an alternative and also viable playstyle while also nerfing the 'normal' play style. It makes the game less predictable and stale. But instead we have addons like the Speed Limiter, which are completely worthless because you get stomped so hard that the extra BP don't matter anyway.
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Honestly looking at these two i kinda wonder why renjiros is a iri. You could say because its aura reading but greens have had that before. It also follows the same principal of these two addons that it weakens the normal playstyle of oni while making him very good at tracking. I guess they were going for a black incense type thing but just missed the mark?
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