The title of the game is "Dead By Daylight" not "Alive By Sunrise"

I think there are a lot of survivor mains who get confused, so I'm attempting to reinforce this fact. No, you are not supposed to escape every time you play the game. Yes, the odds are supposed to be stacked against you. Mic drop.

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  • BrownEncrustedBoxers
    BrownEncrustedBoxers Member Posts: 40
    edited February 2023

    So the title of the game is accurate and well chosen, then. And 40% is pretty good. That means in any given match one to two survivors out of four actually escape. Feel proud when you do.

  • Nope. Cuz then the title would be "Maybe Dead, Maybe Alive By Daylight", not "Dead By Daylight". Mic stays on the floor.

  • Deathstroke
    Deathstroke Member Posts: 3,508

    60% kill rate sounds nice on paper but really what should matter is the hook count. If killers gets 2K with 4 hooks was the match really balanced? Hook count should be at least on average 7-8 per match maybe more.

  • Shroompy
    Shroompy Member Posts: 6,634

    Ok but also this is a game thats meant to be fun for everyone

    You're not meant to get a 4k every game either

  • Veinslay
    Veinslay Member Posts: 1,959
    edited February 2023

    60% is fine for kill rates because they provide buffer to account for hook suicides that doom an entire team and (somewhat) survivors that needlessly die in EGC trying to save a mate when they could have just left. Sub 50% kill rates would be a massive problem imo

  • EvilSerje
    EvilSerje Member Posts: 1,070

    Lol, everytime? I escaped couple of times in january although I play almost every day. Very funny xD

  • LuthirFontaine
    LuthirFontaine Member Posts: 375

    Has the devs ever stated that suicides have tilted the kill rate?

  • FMG15
    FMG15 Member Posts: 456

    Oh yeah? Then let me tell you this. Killers aren'T entitled to 4k every game and if you go for 4ks you shouldn't be surprised if you go against tryhard survivors. That's on you. Stop pointing with your finger on one side like this is not a killer main issue as well.

  • FMG15
    FMG15 Member Posts: 456

    Let#s make a deal. Survivors will 4 man out on night time maps and killers 4k at day time maps. Sounds like a fair deal to me.

  • KateMain86
    KateMain86 Member Posts: 2,374

    The title of the game has absolutely nothing to do with the balance or fairness of the game. If it did there would be no survivor players since the implication would be you're going to lose almost always playing survivor. Also I don't know why you made this post thinking survivors mains believe they must always escape. What matters is balance and the survivor feeling like they have more than a slight chance in hell of escaping. There are too often situations where things shift too much and too fast into the killer's favor. If 2 survivors get eliminated right away and there are still 3-4 gens up then you're probably not going to escape by opening the door. The gen requirement to power the exit gates should drop as survivors are eliminated. Similar to how it was with the old hatch except it would work towards the door.

  • BrownEncrustedBoxers
    BrownEncrustedBoxers Member Posts: 40
    edited February 2023

    Who said anything about 4k? Hahahaha... it's so easy to trigger people. It's a horror game with nods to horror films. In those films, the smartest and most clever person escapes, usually everyone else dies. Getting 4k is nice, but that shouldn't be expected either. What should be an anomaly is all 4 survivors escaping... ever. Basically, the post is in reference to the consistent stream of survivor complaints that the game is too hard and they keep dying and that Behavior needs to tweak it where they start every killer bound in chains to a wall until all 5 gens are popped.

  • VikingDragonXii
    VikingDragonXii Member Posts: 2,885

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  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,792

    In those films, the smartest and most clever person escapes, usually everyone else dies.

    have you even watched an of the movies you are talking about? It’s not about the smartest or most clever, way more than not the final girl gets saved by someone else otherwise they would be dead early on, or they get lucky and others get unlucky.

    Who said anything about 4k? Hahahaha... it's so easy to trigger people.

    you know… writing like this it feels like triggering people is what you wanted to do.. which is pretty much trolling and doesn’t contribute anything at all. Many people weren’t even strictly talking about 4K or anything.


    Basically, the post is in reference to the consistent stream of survivor complaints that the game is too hard and they keep dying and that Behavior needs to tweak it where they start every killer bound in chains to a wall until all 5 gens are popped.

    i actually don’t see that many complaints by survivor players. And it’s coming just as much from the killer side. Maybe stop generalizing and actually look at all the feedback instead of cherry picking then you realize that plenty of people are giving constructive and valid feedback.

    we don’t need further „us vs. them“ threads, this is as much of a problem as those survivor complaints you write about. Don’t let yourself get triggered by the few.

  • I'm not quite understanding what you mean by "us vs. them"... I play survivor and killer pretty much evenly (as it gets boring playing just one or the other for too long). Also, maybe you haven't read the entire thread, but there are several comments with the same refrain of "4k's shouldn't be happening" which is why I was addressing that. Even from a survivor perspective, I'd rather play thinking that at least one of us out of the four is not going to make it out alive, it makes it much more thrilling. To be honest, I love it when all four make it out when I am playing survivor, but it happened to me 50% of the survivor games I played last night... that's a bit too much, in my opinion.

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,792

    Us vs them mentality is still very much present in your post, it doesn’t matter if you play both sides.

    and literally no one even hinted at something like „4Ks shouldn’t be happening“, read again (and the same goes for the comments there got possibly deleted, there was nothing indicating that at all)


    i do agree it would be better if 4 man escapes were rare/rarer, but that’s not what you were talking about in the OP. and the game just isn’t designed that way.