Next will be Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance

Do you think PR is OP or something?

It's not gonna get nerfed lol

Nerfs will probably be called for. That doesn't guarantee the nerf will happen

It’s gonna be PR, Jolt or Deadlock next.

There usage rate is gonna be too high just because it’s getting defaulted to as everything else gets nerfed.

My guess list is: CoB (nerf from 200 to 150%) overcharge (nerf from 200% overtime to 175%) deadlock (from 30s to 25-20s) lets not forget that the combo PR + DMS got a nerf with the new qol they are making so it sounds more "realistic" when hooking survivors.. smart survivors were already not working on a gen when a survivor was being carried now that pre short scream before being hooked will give that information even easier without losing those seconds of not touching the gen currently.

I do think it’s too strong but I don’t think it should be nerfed again until killers have better slowdown at base and/or gens don't fly so quickly at the beginning of the game.

I think there’s 2 categories of strong and overused perks:

1. Perks that are actually just overpowered
2. Perks that are a bit too strong but combat and/or band-aid fix a problem with the game that needs to be addressed first

Pain Res falls into the second category imo (and so do a few other slowdown perks).

Eruption was in the first category.

:(

Speaking from personal experience, I very much understand 😂

I mean, maybe? Pain res, isn't that difficult to counter. Sure, like CoB, Jolt and Overcharge, it annoying AF but manageable.

Saying things like Eruption was uncounterable, likely build the social trend you're complaining about. Its impossible to trust anything you say when people went and countered it.

I do think its a little stupid to pre-cry about an outcry that hasn't happened yet.

But still, weather you're aware of it or not, you're doing quite a bit to build an antagonistic us VS them environment.

It doesn't help that a developer basically said they check the forums for balance needs...

Sure. They aren't saved at all times.

I don't care if they buff killers.

I was just saying it could be countered, and it didn't require voice coms.

You could work around it.

Anyways, that doesn't really belong here, as the argument is over and the developers made their decisions.

My point in mentioning it was to point out that you're not going to build trust with people who feel opposed to you by lying.

That will just deepen the divide.

Why don't you play survivor then?

You need to use Bond, not Empathy. This is important because you would be deciding IF you want to waste time countering Eruption based on the quality of your rando teammates. Bond is nice because it shows you the players you'd have been better off DCing immediately upon being matched with. But of course you don't do that, you just put up with them. You also don't try to counter difficult perks with this quality of team mate. Did they sandbag you? did they loop a killer around a generator? did they go down in 10 seconds because bad pathing? Don't waste your time trying to over come the communication hurdle you have with this type of player when dealing with Eruption.

Things you have to accept.

Countering Eruption will result in lesser generator efficiency.

You have to change your playstyle to increase your success chances.

First thing of course is don't make a three gen. When Eruption was at its peak in use I'd see it in 1/4 of my games(down to about 1/8 now) so, it made sense to carry a load out to counter it, perks in addition to Bond(which always comes with you primarily to evaluate the solo ques you are matched with), use hyperfocus and steakout(fog wise if you can fit it), and if you're lucky enough to have a SWF2 the one without bond should bring PTS. These are the easiest perks to reduce generator time. It also helps to HOLD a BNP or two, until you are down to a critical gen which is the time where Eruption really swung matches. Simply, don't rush on the first gen, it doesn't matter, only the last one does, unless you are breaking up a tight generator formation. Note that we never really needed fogwise to do this stuff, it worked or didn't based on the quality of the random team mates(but this is most of how DbD works).

And from there its usually as easy and annoying as the community implies, you watch and guesstimate based on bond based observations when the person running the killer will go down. OFC, you will have developed an idea of which team mate runs the killer best so commit to your gen of choice(or need usually) when the runner looks good.

The other thing you can do, and I was surprised at how often a player I could not communicate with could be used to accomplish this is to have them or you hover over the generator in question. You are going to have one of you get hit with Eruption because you are fully committed to getting this specific generator done right now. The other will step in and take over the gen, and the Erupted player will move into the killers FoV on his approach. Use common sense with this one and adjust it based on what the killer tends to do, you may need to linger and hide, or split and circle back. The key thing is to manipulate who the killer is chasing, it needs to be the person with incapacitation so they aren't useless, in this task(they could always unhook, but you're going to let that person sit, for now).

So, there are a couple of things you can/could have done.

Anyways, I didn't @ you in the first place on this one because I can read what you wrote across most of your posts, and it frankly seems like a waste of time to type up the above wall of text for you, you do not seem interested in this type of approach. I already said it all in the earlier Eruption vs the world threads anyway. If you honestly wanted to know, and were wondering if you could manipulate random players to do the above, I'm sorry for making the assumption, and I hope we're all able to consider altering our builds to counter the new challenges that arise in the future before calling for nerfs, because I don't think Eruption was altered due to absent counter play. I think it was changed due to public outcry, and justified via the difficulty level of countering it.

TLDR:

Run bond.

Don't be a potato.

Pay attention.

Try Bond, Fogwise, Hyperfocus, Steakout.

Use common sense.

Well.

We won matches like that.

So things were done.

I mean, this game isn't calculus but its not tic tac toe either.

Its more than just hold "W", and abuse the survivor's tiny hit box to do unintended things.

The more options we have to play with the more fun it is.

If you're having trouble with Killer right now, it's usually down to individual skill or errors.