Nerfing Killers into the ground and leaving them to languish. Why?

I tried Billy recently and god i forgot how bad it is.

Did pull of one nice curve though

Billy's addons were much better before the nerf. Now a majority of his addons has no use. The Big Buckle is a picture perfect example of an addon that the devs never thought about and just threw in there. Even his good addons are a bit undertuned, mainly because his base kit is heavily map dependent. There are maps where you can play Billy and have a good time but the more maps get added and the more the older maps get reworks his power weakens. In order to perform well with the Hillbilly you have to be on a way higher level than pretty much any other killer. It's not enough to be good. You need to be cracked. At this point I doubt it's enough to simply buff him. He has too many problems between maps, his addons, his difficulty and quality of life. To fix Billy they'd need to heavily rework his kit and addons.

Deathslinger doesn't feel great to play either. He has a good 1v1 but his 1v4 is abismal. His chase potential is quite high but seeing how many things you can use to not go down against him, he's really not as strong as you might think. Put some kind of obstacle between him and yourself and you're almost guaranteed to get off. On top of that his time management is insanely bad. A 4.4 m/s killer that has to reload after every use of his power. That's worse than Huntress and Trickster.

Freddy is another example of a killer that got completey annihilated. His base power is incredibly weak even disregarding the fact that it only works on sleeping survivors, his teleport deactivates in end game and his addons are some of the worst in the entire game. He has maybe 3-4 addons that could potentially give him some value. His iridescent Paintbrush could be implemented in his base kit and he'd still be incredibly weak. This is all on top of the fact that he's quite... Boring. His chase is a washed down version of Clown's, his teleport is weaker than any other teleport in the game and his dream world is not really a threat but an inconvenience at best.

I think Billy and Freddy need excessive reworks. For slinger I'd like to see his reload speed and his chain durability increased as well as his terror radius reduced again and some of his addons buffed.

It frustrates me how long BHVR takes between tweaking killers and their addons. It's so strange. Plague changes were great, made her more playable. Legion and Ghostface reworks were excellent and made them far less frustrating to play, without making them OP.

How many resources could it possibly take to tweak the crouch uncrouch time for pig? Test out if you can give hillbilly doom engravings basekit, or something? Clown, why not separate the purple and yellow bottles, but let them reload together. Also let the yellow come out just a little faster?

All these tiny number tweaks or small reworks take years to happen. It's baffling. Why make new killers when there's lots of potential to improve older ones?

slinger is the same. its just that he actually requires skill now.

freddy was really overrated to begin with. all bhvr did was give you a little slowdown while placing snares and thats it. most of the time, your movement speed while placing snares didnt even matter if the survivor was actively running the tile. id argue nurse got a harsher nerf than him (and her nerf was barely a slap on the wrist)

billys nerf was needed but a bit too much.

Para mi Freddy necesita ya un Rework ya mismo

playing survivor vs deathslinger was a real adrenaline rush in terms of chases. i hope he comes back some day or another like him shows up.

Does no one remember when Billy would literally just spin around maps in circles until he won the game by catching someone in 10 seconds?

There is a legitimate reason as to why Overheat exists beyond just a limitation to camping with a revved Chainsaw.

Billy used to be the most painful killer to face next to Nurse. His nerf changed that immediately. He instantly dropped to a mid-tier killer at best. I hated going against Billy and never played him myself, but I actually felt bad for Billy mains.

I don't notice much difference playing against Deathslinger. He really didn't need a nerf to begin with, but I can still get decent killrates with him using a controller (although I really didn't start playing him until after his nerf).

I Just feel they need to do another Add-on Change for a lot of killers. Half the add-ons on most killers don’t help in the slightest or in the case of the older ones, nerf them for memes and blood points.

BHVR doesn't do well with reasonable nerfs, they just move straight to murder. For killers and perks.

And in the case of Pig, they desecrate the corpse.

Maybe the reason no one remembers that is because that didn't happen. Catching someone in 10 seconds? Maybe with insta saw addons and it's ok that these were nerfed. But overheat doesn't prevent the Hillbilly from 'spinning around maps in circles'. Not at all.

I recently broke my personal record for the longest uninterrupted chainsaw run without addons. It was glorious. Took 6 minutes and 43 seconds and ended with an Ace as a road block. You can go on long after you reached overheat. That doesn't matter. Overheat is only a hinderence when going for curves.

Also, by the time you downed, picked up, carried and hooked a survivor the overheat will have cooled down considerably.

For your information, according to the devs overheat was added as a countermeasure for camping. Not to limit his strength in other ways.

I did see something about Deathslinger's chase music being too quiet... so they increased his TR

And baiting out survivors movements by spamming M2 doesn't seem nice either... Huntress doesn't have that problem seeing how she goes into a slight cooldown after putting away a hatchet

And Hillbilly did get overnerfed cause Hillbilly can just rev up his chainsaw and wait for the Survivor to make a mistake and a few of his addons were found to be too much

The fact that slinger was nerfed because he had little counterplay in chase and knight is the way that he is confuses me

You literally can’t loop knight. At least with slinger he was slower and had to hit the shot in the first place (Which wouldn’t even guarantee a hit)

Deathslinger was not nerfed into the ground, he's still a solid option.

Slinger does have basekit slowdown. Why do you think he can inflict Deep Wounds? In fact, my favorite build I used to do with him was Sloppy + 3 info perks that could give me info mid chase and basically play him as Ranged Legion. It was good fun.

But a 32m terror radius on a 4.4 killer means he can't really switch targets to actually use his Deep Wounds for anything besides denying DH anymore.