This game has a serious problem

i play killer slightly more than survivor and i have to agree with u. I think certain tactics and play Styles need to be nerfed across the board. pre dropping, shift w, tunneling, and camping to be specific. These things take little to no skill yet are far more effective than things that actually take skill.

i think survivors need a stamina bar which will effect their speed if fully depleted. Dropping a pallet and running for a long time should drain the bar a decent amount. This will punish pre dropping mainly and shift w a little bit. This will force survivors to micromanage their stamina while looping.

killers needs restrictions by hooks and penalties for being around them to long. Also heavy penalties for hooking the same survivor twice.

"tunneling generators" i think u been watching one to many truetalent videos kid.

"What does a killer get for hooking three different players"......the same thing u get from hooking 1 player! pressure.....

comparing tunneling a gen to tunneling out survivor is pretty silly.

Survivors will have to think on their feet even more. I feel it will add a much needed degree of difficulty to some of these boring survivor playstyles.

Why? The game and MMR is lit based and balanced on kills and escapes at this point. Gens and kills are the main objectives, BHVR made this clear. As killer i would love to go for 12 hooks every game and still win. But we just don't have enough time against good survs as their objective can be done much quicker. And if we can, they'll still complain about gen defense perks anyway. Also it's not our job to make sure survs have fun. Most of them don't care about killers fun either.

-""tunneling generators" i think u been watching one to many truetalent videos."

I've been saying it long before he ever did.

Both sides tunnel their objective when you consider efficient play. That needs to change for both sides if we are going to change the game. Tunneling for all or for no one.

"What does a killer get for hooking three different players"......the same thing u get from hooking 1 player! pressure....."

No sorry - you're wrong. One player dead means generators can now at most never be worked at 100% speed. Also the game dynamic is immediately changed because if one player is on the hook and another is being chased you have to stop what you are doing to attend to the hook. That is pressure.

this is a bad take, why is employing strategies to win considered 'bad'? does that mean splittin up on gens and breaking 3 gens makes you bad as well?

There is no logic at all behind your "if you do this you are bad"

Bad killers can tunnel and camp, and the best killers in the game can tunnel and camp. So something is very wrong with your statement.

Usain Bolt is not fast because I don't like his running technique. Ok..

DBD, one of the only games in the world where people who clearly don’t have experience on a particular role have the heaviest critiques and ideas for how said role is “supposed” to be. Amazing

According to rookies like this, there’s no good players in the world because they’ve all tunneled/slugged/camped before. It’s honestly just cringe whenever one-sided Survivors or Killers cope with their lack of skill/experience by projecting all these hypocritical standards to gatekeep others from getting credit

If I had a dollar for every time I heard a DBD rookie say “I played with ____ against ___ and __K’d without ____” I’d already have a asymm game of my own

The people who use those lines NEVER show screenshots/video because it would immediately expose them for being in baby territory

This exactly.....until they give a buff to actually doing a hook spread then the best action for the most efficient way to play is sadly Camping and Tunneling.

Don't be delusional please, it's a blatant fact that 3 survivors are a lot more manageable than 4 survivors with 3 of them being hooked once (even if you loose some generators in the meantime). it's like saying that survivors have more advantage to do all the generators on the map at the same % of progress than focusing on certain gens in order to get them done quickly and divide the map in 2 sides at the same time in order to make the killer's job more difficult. They are somewhat comparable because both are goals to do for each side, both require to end their goal as fast as you can in order to escape/kill and both will make the other side frustrated (a survivor being camped/tunneled will be probably upset, same when you as a killer see 3 generators go in a single chase despite you did't committed any mistake), the only difference between those 2 goals is that survivors are players, so they'll probably whine whenever they got a bad match/experience they'll be more inclined to insult the killer for doing his job.

Even if you punish Tunneling so badly like if one surv is dead the others get a plus 100% gen speed. Killers will still tunnel, because its just the best strategy for Killer. Some games you can go for more hooks, but other games you are happy to get on kill. You dont know what the next game you play will be like. Some time ago the devs tryed a system, where the killer gets reworded for hooking mutible people in therms of game slowdown. Gues how complaind about this system? The survivors complaind, so badly, that the system doesnt get implemented. So the only think survivor mains asking about is nerf killer so hard every game is a nearly 100% win for them. Playing Killer today is still much more harder then playing survivor.

True. I think mostly survivors should think about the situation at the other prospektiv. Its not tunneling, if all 4 survs are alive and there is only one gen left. A Killer holding a 3 gen isnt the fault of the Killer the survivors just do the gens wrong. Maybe killers shouldnt be upset about bodyblocking, but I nearly never see killers complaining about that. An other fakt maybe, that DH is fine IF the Killer you play is very strong.

question-how often do killers lose when they go all tunnel bunny? not very often, huh?

I mean tbf you shouldn’t shame other survivors for playing in ways you dislike either. They aren’t puppets or AI props. Lol. They’re tools in a sense that they help your escape become easier (which is why survivors are rewarded individually, not as a team). But that’s all, really. Tbh the way BHVR intended this game, you should be able to survive the trial alone.

another question-does chronic tunneling result in more killer nerfs?