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Please rework the Survivor Pip system (to be more fair)
I believe the Pip system for survivors needs a rework for various reasons.
DEPIPPING (basically being penalized): This should ONLY occur if a player DC’s, goes AFK, dies on first hook, or does minimal interactions (ie. mostly hiding, never rescuing, etc)
Depipping should NEVER happen if a survivor is actively involved in chases, healing, rescuing, gen repair, ie. playing the game!
Tunneled survivors should never depip. Unless you can differentiate between someone intentionally wanting to be tunneled vs not. It’s not only unfair to be tunneled, but to depip because of it is pouring salt in the wound.
Sometimes killers are AFK, or not very good, and survivors have an easy game with minimal hooks/chases/healing, and depip anyway. That’s just wrong. Minimum of 0 pip.
Sometimes other survivors DC early (like a memeing SWF duo) which basically throws the match, and the remaining survivors depip. Again this is bad and very unfair. Minimum of 0 pip here.
Sometimes survivors go against certain killers like Plague where there won’t be much healing, yet plenty of other survivor interactions, yet don’t pip or maybe depip. Like me, who is just not good at looping or breaking chase. So I rely on heals to help me pip.
Also: I personally am tired of 0 pip when I get 20k+ to 30k+ BP as final score from being very interactive (heals, repairs, rescues, etc) but I don’t pip? 20k-30k BP final score should GUARANTEE a pip!
I enjoy pipping up every month as survivor (and killer) to Iri 1 for the 1 mil BP , but it’s a struggle on the survivor side because of so many weird matches where ppl DC , or killer is new and we have easy matches, yet I don’t pip or sometimes depip when it’s not my fault!
These and other annoying issues with the pip system prevent us from pipping up properly and fairly.
I believe I should pip up when:
- minimum of 1 gen worth of repairs
- minimum of (1-2) safe hook rescues
- minimum of (1-2) health states healed
I may have missed other issues but these are the more annoying and aggravating.
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I agree but depip standards should be also lowered on killer. I can make it to iri 1 on killer if I really want. Currently im on iri 3 but I need to sweat to just get extra 200K bp so I will not try to get there. I have depipped even as killer while getting 4K:s...
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Yeah killer too! For some reason I find it a LITTLE easier to pip as killer than survivor
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Wouldn’t everyone be in high MMR then?
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I've always believed the ranking and pip system should be bloodpoint-based. 20k for one pip, 30k for two.
It'd be better than MMR.
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^ This. Pips are for Grades, not matchmaking. Grades are for giving the player a Bloodpoint reward each month on the 13th. There's no reason to take progress away from reaching this reward.
Pips are for Grades, and those have nothing to do with matchmaking. MMR is hidden from the player.
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