Bullysquads are ENTIRELY out of control

Git gud

why are you still playing it? Do lilke i did: UNISTALL, you'll thank me later for this decision, trust me.

1st i stopped 2 days ago so i'm not "keeping coming back", i'm just giving a warning to other people

2nd why do you bother? i'm giving a personal opinion and this is a forum where people speak about the game, not playing it...

3rd are you simping for this game?

Well I'll start with the fact that I actually play the game and enjoy it. Simping for it, no more than you're simping for negativity.

What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?

She got tunneled out.

Game goes for 1 kill average ratio so I'd say get used to it unless you go sweaty.

You might get advices to not read end game chat or just move to the next game. While it can work in a sense it's nothing but turning a blind eye to the problem with community and game balance. Sure you can come here and complain about it but know that it's survivors who ''bully'' the killer situation and not otherwise and since survivors ''bring the cash in'', don't expect such behavior from their side be punished at all.

To people who say it's a skill issue - while it may be so, it also demonstrates a good glaring issue with this game. Apparently if killer does struggle in the match there is nothing that game does to help. I'm talking about certain perks that could be made base-kit for killers which currently aren't even used on their own and mostly exist to help beginner and inexperienced killers. The heavily disliked fact is that Basekit Borrowed Time is also a skill issue ( skilled survivors don't get caught or can be body shielded by skilled team mates ) yet since it favors survivor playerbase it stays no matter what.

OP : I'd say just move on. The sooner you do the better. Don't let those people stress you up, it's not worth it. I'm saying so because there will be no punishment enacted upon them so the only ''damage'' they can do to you depends on how close you take their words.

“False rhetoric???” The game is imbalanced because of SWF’s- there’s a LOT more of them than 4 good solo players. But you know who the majority is? Solo potatoes. SWF’s are the ones who make killers lives miserable. Why doesn’t the game show who’s in a SWF? Because every killer would dodge those lobbies. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? C’mon now- there are no excuses for that. That’s just plain flagrant. Overwatch is another game that won’t show who’s teamed up- it’s an advantage and causes imbalance. Let’s call it for what it is and stop pretending they’re not the real culprit. It’s a totally different game when I play solos vs. SWF’s. Matchmaking is too asss to consistently give you 4 good solos, so when you do go against solo players- it’s mostly a chill and enjoyable experience.

And as far as maps go: Auto Haven Wreckers Yard, Midwich, Lery’s, The Artist’s map, Haddonfield, The Game (goes both ways- especially for Meyers, Pig, Hag, Doctor, Skull Merchant, etc. and any pallet builds [enduring, spirit fury, nemesis, brutal strength, etc.]. Killers have their fair share of maps, plus the new and future updates are nerfing loops and shrinking more maps. Maps mean nothing in 2023. I bet you if anything, it’s the SWF’s who you are protecting who bring the most map offerings, cause I don’t see it too often in solo que, that’s for damn sure.

@DBDVulture Crow gets it. He understands.

I stand by what I say, and I’m going to keep pushing this narrative as long as game developers are going to keep pretending like grouping up isn’t an advantage and causes an imbalance. When they pair it up with terrible matchmaking, then it becomes a recipe for disaster. I’m sorry the game sucks at high level for killers, but the games sucks even more at low-mid level for survivors. AND BOTH are caused by the improper balance of SWF’s. I swear the consistent potatoes you get as teammates, do more damage to the team than any killer can. They practically give the killer the W with the lack of communication, ragequitting, cowardice, and lack of game sense/awareness. They can’t even take advantage of anything you deem survivor sided such as Ormond. Put Pinhead on that map and watch them ragequit or let go on hook once they got caught first and see he has Plaything. A 3/4 man SWF isn’t doing that. You’ll find out if you don’t do the lament box, 8 times out of 10 NONE of your teammates will do it. Onryo? You think solos strategically do TV’s in between gens to cut off her map control? No. Plague? Always cleansing to give her, her power- then will come and save infected you off hook 10 seconds right after, cleanse again, thus giving her power twice in less than 45 seconds. Nice. Always hiding, self caring, and COH’ing, and too brain dead to take advantage of a “survivor sided” game. And that’s the problem right there Vulture- all these resources put into play for those who need it most (the majority of the player base), and they don’t use it to their full potential. Who does? SWF’s do, on top of already having the one thing that Trumps ANY killer or survivor perk- Communication.

Four good solos are practically unicorns. They’re not encountered often on the low to mid level, otherwise I’d see more of them in my matches when I’m survivor. Huge difference from now and the days of red ranks. Red ranks I consistently saw good players in the majority of my matches.

SWF’s are why I don’t like playing killer. If I lose, it’s usually a stomp- rarely a close game. If I win, it’s usually a sweat fest and not enjoyable. I feel like a played 3 games in a row after just playing ONE match. Too stressful. I don’t understand how killer mains do it. When I go against solo’s who know how to play and use whatever is at their disposal, I enjoy the killer experience the most- win or lose. It’s the perfect tempo. Now going against solo potatoes is nice and an ego boost (NGL), but too often I have to let the last person or last two go because their teammates either ragequitted or were just somewhere hiding and not participating/helping. I totally understand their woes for having to endure that, so I become empathetic. But the game is not fun having to deal with that for 2 or 3 matches consecutively, so i turn it off.

1) Because it isn't designed to. The MM prioritizes queue times over balanced games, doubly so if you get backfilled. To me, it's still likely that these games are completely winnable. However, without any footage, it's difficult to say for sure.

2) I didn't see anyone paint you as a villain for using NOED, although I admittedly stopped paying close attention after a bit.

Oh, and a quick question. Did you mean to say that CoH was buffed?

You admit that you started camping in the first game, and it's clear from the point total that you tunnelled the adept Jane out immediately.

The reason you're 'struggling to down anyone' is because you're inflating your MMR by resorting to cheap, hard-to-counter tactics that net you kills you don't have the skill to secure straight. You're playing above your skill rank.

Great example that the term "bully squad" has no meaning. Nowadays everything a Killer dislikes is called "bullying".

"Dead by Daylight is a bully simulator and nothing else."

Well said.

I made a post similar to this yesterday about the constant sqauds and all people ever say is "take this as an opportunity to get better" which is total BS, this game is favoured towards swfs (not solo queue, solo queue is a mess too) and they know exactly what to do to ensure the worst possible experience.

I uninstalled, I suggest you do the same for your own sanity

The self heal is what people care about though.

You can heal with We'll make in 8 seconds and it has been like this for years, but nobody complains about it, while most people would agree that it is a good perk it's not a meta perk. Sure, you have to unhook and than it is only active for 90 seconds, but CoH need blessing, can be snuffed and both survivors need to travel to the affected area, so I would say both have their up- and downsides and I personally I wouldn' t pick CoH over Wmi (but I don't like boons in general, so I might be biased).

I've heard the concern that CoH could be used in certain anti slug builds (with soul guard and wglf maybe?) and I'm not sure how realistic these concerns are, so maybe CoH might need adjustments for specific situations, but overall I don't think it will be a problem (or even used much).

That is not even close to making up for the loss of Self-Healing.

That's what made CoH absurd.

These 8 second heal times are really 30 seconds since they require two Survivors and the time to set-up a Boon. That's not even accounting for travel time or if the Killer snuffs the Boon.

The perk is good. I wouldn't mind seeing it go to 75% but it definitely didn't get buffed.

That still requires someone else to not do anything to go and heal them. Totems are not always easily accessible, nor will they allow survivors to heal in front of the killer like COH used to do in its early days. You seriously think survivors will perform altruistic healing right in front of a killer?

And if you think this is unfair, then surely We'll Make It is also an unfair overpowered healing perk. 8 second heals for 90 seconds after an unhook! Inconceivable!

-"developers are going to keep pretending like grouping up isn’t an advantage and causes an imbalance."

For the first 4-5 years the devs said : SWF offers no advantage. Then they said, "oops it gives up to a 15% increased escape rate- our bad."

-"the game sucks at high level for killers, but the games sucks even more at low-mid level for survivors"

And the problem here is that they balance the game around the bad players and ignore the high level experience. This causes high level killer players to quit.

-"Four good solos are practically unicorns."

The MMR system encourages people who hide in the corner to rank up because escaping is the only metric. Once upon a time you needed to do well in 4 categories to rank up. So only the good players were red and those who were corner campers got to maybe green if they got carried.

"SWF’s are why I don’t like playing killer"

And the problem is that the rhetoric they gave us was that first they were going to make solos closer to SWF and then they were going to buff killers. Where did that part go? They nerfed killers to the point where gen defense is impossible and gave survivors a slap on the wrist.

not sure that 2nd group is jane was going 4 her adept and they didnt havw op addons...end game chat doesnt make them a bully squad

Looking at the screenshots, I can tell they are childish jerks but they don't look like bully squads.

The items nor the perks fit a team made to "bully" a killer.

If it makes you feel better, these are the kind of players who DC the minute it doesn't go well for them or stay silent in the chat when they have been destroyed.

They are not worth the space they are occupying in your mind. What's the word? Rent-free?

It used to be, before the 1K hour mark, I had trouble with some kinds of survivors. After a while (more than 3K hours now) it went better and now my favorite kind of opponents are the "bullies", the real ones. They are so predictable I'm amazed the rare times I only get a draw against such a team. I've killed these with a bunch of different killers, including Trapper (that's how "easy" they can be.) Strangely, it's more difficult when I'm on Nurse as they tend to be way more careful against that killer.