What are your thoughts on the post-PTB Pain Res?

Sorry if this is a silly question, but the changes that are being made from what was on the PTB, they haven't been tested on the PTB, right?

I'm inclined to disagree with this, since that would mean the first four unique hooks period will proc it. This could cost it early game value depending on how far along a given gen is.

As a Scourge Hook you have a bit more control over when it procs, RNG placement aside.

Not necessarily they could of just finished a gen as your getting a down. There's going to be plenty of time were you don't proc thr 25%

Hell yeah I'll keep using pain resonance. Regressing gens by 100% just by hooking 4 people, all without touching a gen? Sign me up.

People who complain about it losing value probably go like "but if i got 9 people on hook i would have gotten more regression you see?". The game's most likely already over at 9 hooks or it likely reached a treshhold where gen regression is hardly a factor anymore. Finally, unless you camp, you're not getting 9 hooks on scourge hooks in a single game.

DH is only a gamble if you are bad at using it, when you are good you will FORCE the value, unless you mean its a gamble if you will face legion/slinger,then you are correct.

Adrenaline is not that good for that reason.

And hex totems are a joke lmao, trying to say a perk can be strong and mentioning those inconsecuential perks is funny af, its literally been months since I saw a devour or ruin, and good ridance why use those meme perks.

Dh isn't a gamble if used correctly and I almost never see noed. Look at hex perk if you want to think about gambling and that's why no one runs them

Idk guess well agree to disagree, on that note why do people even use oppression like not even trying to be mean, do people with more than 10 hours manage to fail the skillcheck?

By definition sure it might be gambling but the chance been 70%-80% of getting use makes it low risk.

I don't see many hexes in my games but with totem spawns and thr high risk low reward of most hexes makes them bad. Just because you see perk don't make them good either. What happend in the games matter in that context did they go right away did the kill at least 3k most them matches or was it a 3 man out?

I think it will be a fair perk now. Killers like to hang around survivors that are on scourge hooks and abuse it. This is a pretty good change.

tunneling generators is all i needed to hear.

Sounds to me you relied to much on a cheese strat and are now forced to deal with survivors above your skill level.

Hardcore tunneling from the start is something that can backfire massively if survivors get stronger. 95% of genrush complaints are just killers who tunnel at the wrong time.

Genrush and tunneling gens are excuses you are giving yourself. If you want to become better at the game you need to ban those words out of your vocabulary. The only time an actual genrush happens is with multiple bnp's or /and gen perks.

There are plenty of strategies against survivors "tunneling gens". Slugging being one of the biggest ones. Not many people talk about it but pay attention when you watch high level players. Almost every time they slug for pressure atleast once. That's one of the biggest things you can learn.

Hooking someone takes 6-21 seconds, that's ~7-23% times 3 of gen times you are giving the survivors for free when you hook somebody. A survivor slugged while you chase another means 3 survivors aren't on gens as someone has to pick the slug up. Slugging at the right time can turn any match around.

You still ofcourse want somebody dead asap but you need to do it while keeping the rest busy. Higher level players don't tunnel from the start, they look for the oppertunity to do so. Oppertunistic tunneling is very strong. Trying to force it leads to "genrushing". If you watch higher level streamers you'll notice this a lot. They make a snap judgement of when they tunnel. They pretty much never plan it from the start.

This probably won't matter cause you want to believe your own excuse too much but only you is holding you back from becoming better at the game

-"tunneling generators is all i needed to hear."

Both sides tunnel in DBD. If you think it's fine for one side and not the other then you want the game to be unfair.

-"If you want to become better at the game you need to ban those words out of your vocabulary. The only time an actual genrush happens is with multiple bnp's or /and gen perks."

You need a flag to go with that propaganda.

DBD works fine if nobody plays efficiently. If the survivors are efficient and you are not you will get stomped. If the survivors dont tunnel gens and the killer tunnels they get stomped.

I genrush all the time as survivor without genrush perks. It's a mindset where you look at the map and disassemble the 3 gen before it happens. You trade 1 hook for 1 generator and you're out very quickly. Most killers simply cannot handle efficient gen completion with mediocre looping. Nurse and Blight can do whatever they want because they are so much better than every other killer.

You act as if I have no idea what slugging is but I played killer without hooking anyone for a long time.

True, you have to be trolling to equip ruin.

It's still a decent perk and I would run it still with a gen dependent type build.

That's only because hex perks aren't really prevalent atm but totem spawns are still bad not as bad as they use to be though.

Actually i was using ruin with the skull merchant and knight and got decent value. I will agree that most the time its a meme.Almost any hex perk on the swap is unfindable