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The Only Important Tier-List In DBD (100% True)
In all seriousness though, here is a Teir-List based of how effective crouch-teching is against the very fast boys of DBD.
Crouch-teching when going against an Oni is not really effective if the Oni is competent. They will just swing with their power and down you. Oni WILL slide off of the player but with good timing the Oni will almost always get the down. Oni is able to avoid "unhittable" situations because his ability has an AOE area for downing Survivors.
With Blight and Billy, crouching physically reduces the size of your hitbox and can completely deny hits you otherwise would have gotten. And on areas with slightly different elevations (like Shack), you can swing into a crouched Survivor as Blight and Billy and completely miss because the Survivor is just slightly lower than your hitbox.
This is the b̴̺̌͛̿̒̋̌̈́̊̿͠͠è̷͉̣̗͕͆̈́͆͝s̵̡̟̝̮̙̘͍͎̰͔͔̻̥͇̟̐͆̀͒̏̓̈́̎̊͑̎̀͆͛͘t̸̡̪̗̘̱̺̻͇̼̭͓̔͂́̍̇̈́̂̿̓̇̚͜͠͠ͅ Tier-List to ever exist, clearly... not really...
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"b̴̺̌͛̿̒̋̌̈́̊̿͠͠è̷͉̣̗͕͆̈́͆͝s̵̡̟̝̮̙̘͍͎̰͔͔̻̥͇̟̐͆̀͒̏̓̈́̎̊͑̎̀͆͛͘t̸̡̪̗̘̱̺̻͇̼̭͓̔͂́̍̇̈́̂̿̓̇̚͜͠͠ͅ "
Bro started speaking Cybertronian.
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Nah. Billy and Blight can't be on the same tier. Billy has no counter play, blight can look down to delete the "crouch tech???" lmao.
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It depends on depend on the tileset; Ive seen comp. level Blights get crouch-teched before.
I would recommend watching comp matches and/or 1v1 tournaments, you can learn a lot about how crouch-teching effects these Killers.
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where demo
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who?
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Read the first sentence very closely. It's only "very fast boys".
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i saw nessmiss on it and just figure u was including everyone
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Nemesis? Where did I put Nemesis?
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... The Infinite Abyss that Consumes All.
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Yes, the Infinite Abyss That Consumes All... we do not talk about ť̶̠͍̭͍̥̦̩̙͍̰̞̈́̿̌̈́̓͛͐̆̀̅̄͘͜͠h̸̠̜̪̳͔́̏̓́̄͂͂̀͛͊͗͘͜͝͝ă̸̡̠̭͈̜̳͆̆͑̓́́̓́͘̚͠͠ͅț̸͖͑͂̋̽̚ ̷̙̼͒̓̓͋̍̈́̈́͠ͅt̸̠͙̤̭͔̞̻̱̩͓̲̝̪͇̰͆̌́͆̒̉͋͝ḩ̸̢͎͉̥̤̹̹̭̮̩̮̌͌̀̽̈̿ͅi̶̡̹̝̖͔͙̖̓̐̓̈́n̷̨̜̗͕̬̜̝͂̑̀̈́̍̀̌̒͛̽̉͑͗̈g̵̜̯͍̗̻̔̌̑̽̽̍̾̀̏͘.
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I don't see a Nemesis. I just see... nothing. An abyss, stretching on infinitely and yet going nowhere.
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yall some top tier trolls
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If you look down at the start of your rush and anticipate the crouch tech it just flat out doesn't work anywhere that I am aware of.
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Oh that.
That depends mostly on the distance, since Billy and Blight can both deal with crouch-teching from short distances by looking down, it has to do with the hitbox positions being pushed lower down by looking down, but as they rush/sprint, the hitbox position is moved slowly up, which is why it only works over short distances.
But in most loops, you apply crouch-teching and just counter their power because the distance they are forced to cover guarantees that they wont get a hit (and prevents the "looking down" trick from working) because the hitbox would be shifted to it's proper position by then.
That's not so much "crouch-teching doesnt work" but more of "you are doing it at the wrong time and position".
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I'm just not sure that is accurate though. If you crouch tech on an even elevation surface vs blight he's going to hit you regardless of whether he looks down or not, if you are at shack for example and use that uneven surface he can look down and mitigate it anyway. A shoulder flick literally makes blights model his entire hitbox for the first small portion of the lethal rush attack, that's why you can quite literally kick people in the head. It works at shack because he can't get next to you due to the door, but as I said he can look down at the start to make sure that doesn't happen.
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Again, I would advise watching 1v1 tournaments, youd be surprised how much it actually works, it's obviously more effective in public matches but I wouldnt sit here and act like "oh, it's useless because it can be countered" when it's called a "tech" for a reason... because it has to be applied properly AND can be countered by knowledge players... it's literally no different from any other tech.
- Hens basic explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQnzET5nL_Q
- Another visual example I grabbed in like 2 minutes of search (and also a bit of proof that it does work on Blight btw): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCF-nJQo-dc
Im stated in the original post that "on areas with slightly different elevations (like Shack), you can swing into a crouched Survivor as Blight and Billy and completely miss because the Survivor is just slightly lower than your hitbox" for a reason. Im not talking about the same elevation, stop mentioning stuff on the same elevation when it's something Im not talking about.
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Those videos didn't really discount anything I said though. With billy it's pretty much impossible to deal with, with blight you can start your rush looking down on the other side of shack and it will hit someone trying to do use this tech against him. People will hit this against lilith once and he will go out of his way to show how easy it is to counter as blight. My original reply was simply stating how I don't think blight and billy should be in the same tier because of the massive difference in effectiveness the tech has against these two killers.
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Again, I do not think you understand what I was saying.
With Blight, crouch-teching can definitely be countered, I am agreeing with you on there, my point is that it depends on when you use it, because it DOES have application in gameplay, it DOES have utility that can save someone in a match, you just have to use it at the right time and place, that's the whole point of a "tech".
And the entire Tier-List in of itself was a meme, if I were putting it more seriously, Blight would be above Billy but below Oni because of what I have been saying, crouch-teching is not as effective compared to a Killer like Billy, but again, it DOES have application, I would put more categories and put other Killers that it is appliable to as well, such as Demo's Shred and Plague's Corrupt Purge, but again, I originally just made it as a joke.
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Ok, I took this too seriously and definitely misinterpreted some thing you said, especially the things I said that didn't have relation to an elevation difference.
Blight actually has quite a few things like what you described where he has to learn the survivors playstyle and what they know in order to counter them. Wiggles, use of collision and crouch tech all come to mind.
The only reason I got on you was because billy has 0 real counterplay to something like the crouch tech unless in a perfect position and blight can actually adapt to these playstyles.
I simply can't believe Billy has to deal with this non-sense, while I am fine with it being a thing vs blight. If I can counter it, then by all means it's just another layer to blight game play for both sides that makes him the pinnacle of this game. So many miniscule things add up in dbd and blight has the most amount of counter play while none of it is available at a given time, if that makes sense to you.
On these forums, for the most part I simply try to give out information about blight and contest the nonsensical and uninformed statements made about a killer that 95% of players have barely scratched the surface of.
While I do comment on things and make emotional arguments sometimes, blight is completely neutral for me and I simply want people who have the want to improve to their maximum to get the opportunity to do so. I can't stand these m1 killers that rely on the survivors to make a mistake or the map they are playing on to allow them to get a down when survivors aren't greeding. I can't stand Nurse being considered a hard killer when her skill floor takes 10 games if you have low talent for video games to achieve. Spirit isn't hard whatsoever in my opinion either, it just takes a few games to get used to her. If blight didn't have alch ring/c33 and maybe his speed add-ons were reduced by 1% each or even made additive instead of multiplicative he would be the perfect killer, followed closely by Wesker(especially with his tech).
The main takeaway from what I say in anything related to blight is I want people to know as much as possible about him while being as neutral as possible. I want people to go out of their way to learn this killer so they can do anything against a good blight. I have quite literally never gotten hate from anyone but comp teams running the best stuff and players complaining about non-existent tunneling(something I would never do because I want to see the full extent of each survivor's skill regardless of what they are running or how good they seem). In a whole year and a half of nearly playing blight exclusively I have received such a small amount of salt in post game it's nearly baffling.
Alright bit of a rant for you but it's really just an explanation on why I responded so defensively even though I clearly misunderstood your responses.
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