Why are you review bombing Dead by Daylight?

This is the realest thing lmao

Everyone has heard the good old "Your fun isn't my responsibility". Has anyone ever heard "That was annoying! But my fun isn't your responsibility and the strat worked, wp"? I doubt it 😄

It's not your responsibility or mine to take accountability for a multi million dollar company getting bad reviews - I feel you shouldn't worry about it.

Valve has a system in place to counteract review bombings by automatically flagging them - Users who don't want this affecting their store can toggle this on or off. If it's really a problem for BHVR they can respond to it by either giving a public statement or adjusting their game. Truth be told BHVR does this to theirself because when ever a balance change mass upsets the community it's because everyone became content with it because it takes them forever to make balance changes. That or they do something insane like nerfing Hillbilly when the majority of the community would say that for the most part they were fine.

Do you really feel people would have been upset about Decisive Strike or Dead Hard for example if BHVR didn't wait years to change them? Other times BHVR has gotten review bombed was because of the removal of Pinhead's voice without announcing anything (I get it I guess - licensing) and the NFT drama surrounding that and a few times some employees have said questionable things.

Every multiplayer communities are toxic unfortunately...

The main problem with DbD is that some perks invite players to be toxic and adds up to the general toxicity of the players.

The problem is, that behaviour insists in keeping swf and solo survivor in one system, with killer balanced somewhere in the middle.

So every balance change to move killer closer in balance to swf moves them further away in balance from solo, every buff to survivor might affect swf even more than solos.

Just from my point of view: As killer, i pretty much beat most solo teams i encounter, and the more casual swf. Sweaty swf, i usually have a really hard time, and this are the matches that frustrate me.

However, the last changes did nothing to me, because if i beat solo anyway, it doesnt matter how easy i beat them, while at the same time, the changes are not enough to help me against sweat swf at all. As a killer, this patch affected me next to not at all.

As solo survivor, however, it got even worse. Part might not even be the changes themself, but the change in killer behaviour, because since the patch, every single match i had a killer camp or tunnel, because its even easier to do. I am at the point where i dont see any sense in playing survivor at all, so i play killer or another game.

This happens almost every time, and the argument is always "but the nerf isnt fun"

Maybe for the people leaving the reviews its true.

I also don't think anything in this statement is true

Yeah review bombing is sth that always happens if some1 receives a nerf.

I played enough mmo’s in my life to notice that. And this is why it’s a problem. People just throw all their salt in the reviews, in the hope they are getting theirs change reverted as long as they just cry enough.

but that’s not what reviews are for and that’s a problem…

And in this case the devs brought the problem in theirs own house.

They implemented sbmm and opened a very problematic box for the game. This way they gave the game a competitive aspect. And competitive games should be balanced around the best what is in the possibilities of a player. So we balance around a full sweat swf… this is a problem because this basically kills soloq, due to the fact the gap between soloq and swf is gigantic.

Some people wrote it here. SWF more or less still too powerful and soloq is a nightmare right now.

what to do now? Yeah actually I think there is no perfect solution for this. To really achieve something like balance you will need to separate swf and soloq. But this will definitely result in q times to the moon for swf.

what is not a real solution at all.

you can maybe make a normal and a ranked mode while the ranked mode has tournament rules? The normal mode would have no sbmm and is just fun and messing around?

I am really not sure about this, but throwing everything in one pot is just not the solution… there will then be 1 party that is massively put in a misery and that will be the soloq players mostly…

and ofc killer who have weird matches. First match sweaty swf genrush boys followed by soloq no items squad…. Kinda weird.

It is getting review bombed because the community is bored of what BHVR does with the game and it is legit.

It has been 7 years and we still have the following problems that has been in the game since pretty much the start :

• unbalanced maps
• unbalanced loop forcing you to equip some perks for M1 killers
• DH too strong for YEARS
• Toolboxes too strong
• SWF still way too OP
• Weird nerf choices balancing the game around bad players and so breaking the game at higher level
• and so on...

Sure BHVR has improved the game the last couple of years but they are far from what the community is expecting.

Just look at the last patch, what is this for a full META gen rush ? It is boring, gens are flying and if as a killer you want to win, you have to tunnel and play dirty, that is the only viable option now.

Where is the fun ?

The previous patch had its flaw (regression too powerfull, Dh too strong) but the trials i had were way better on both sides.

The idea behind separating swf and soloq is that you can balance it. So in soloq killers would be less powerful and in swf more powerful. So you will have a way to balance the information aspect from swf etc.

normal mode is just ffa. It would be dbd before sbmm. All addons and items allowed etc. so yeah an swf can come and destroy you, but they will more likely be in the sweat swfq to push rating. This mode is more meant to be a casual messing around experience. This games will exist, it would be much less than before probably.

Don’t get me wrong. This solution is not perfect either, but I think it’s better compared to what we have now. And it’s just the “competitive road” they were starting to walk along.

So this is just an idea to make this game more enjoyable for casuals and soloq players. also for killers who can choose what experience they want to have.

for me as a killer main I can say that I like to face strong swf teams. But not 90% of my games in the evening. Sometimes I just wanna mess around or try sth new. But sadly there is no possibility to do that. Not sure where mmr brought you or the others here, but it’s kinda exhausting to sweat the … out of every game. And I think this is not sth only I want or only killers want. Sometimes you just wanna play for fun, but actually there is only ranked q with a very big amplitude of outcome.

Also, i think a killers movement speed have a lot to do here, all the fast moving killers are doing good. Because they have more time to spare. if they can patrol gens in 20 secs where a normal killer uses 30 secs. Thats 10 secs of repair time and 40 secs of gen regression. This is a lot, when you think about a gen takes 90 secs to solo (and 360 secs to regress), with out any tools or perks.

I agree on all accounts, im a former killer. But the current genrush meta have pushed me away. Its simply too stressing as killer. You are in a hurry at all times and every second matter, gens can be done in between 45 and 90 secs (even faster if there are more people at them).

In that time you have to

1 find a survivor, 2 Loop the survivor, 3 Break a pallet, 4 get a hit, 5 follow the survivor to the next loop, 5 Loop again, 6 break another pallet, 7 down the survivor, 8 Pick up and hook the survivor.

And then start all over.

This needs to be done :

• 6 times, if you tunnel for a 2k

All in the time it takes to do 5 gens.

(im not saying this to promote tunneling).

Dead hard change was needed. The healing nerfs were only too much for altruistic healing, which they fixed by basically making personal healing slow. They nerfed 3 genning. Why are you mad again?

Wait, are people still review bombing the game? Lmao what? I thought that was because of the nerfed altruistic healing, which BHVR reverted.

They have nerfed the complete killer's gen control capability.

By nerfing 3 gens, they made it easy for the survivors to finish the last gen and escape but they also nerfed the control the killer has on the generators.

Now the killer cannot apply pressure without camping/tunneling.

All the games i have won as killer (other the nurse and blight) have been with the camp/tunnel strategy.

Against good survivors, 3 gens are done by the end of the 1st chase.

2nd gen is done during the 2nd chase.

So you have 2 to 3 hooks and there is one gen left... at this point, only nurse can win.

The gen pressure should be on the killer side, not on the survivor's side. There are 4 survivors, it is their job to organize their team to complete the gens despite the killer's pressure.

ATM that is the survivor that applies pressure on the killer that has to prevent the gen to be done, against 4 survivors, while it doesn't not have the tools to do it.

Last time I checked, yeah, it's ridiculous 🤣

Valid criticism? Reading the new reviews makes me think that full grown adults that are clearly showing tantrums written these. It's just a bunch of people crying and showing egotistical behaviors which are self-serving.

I hornestly dont feel the difference on the healing,

• As for CoH.. it was a toolbox for SWFs and it freed up either a medkit slot or a self heal perk slot, and could give 4 people a perk for the price of 1. That needed to be dealt with. And its easy to replace with a medkit or bond if you are a SoloQ.
• DH was still abused in mass, and really strong. It is still strong, but now it dosnt feel like a free second chance, i think its fair where it is now.

I think the reason for much of the tunneling is that the killer are really in a hurry because of the genrushing, i have up on killer a while a go, because the stress and time preasure killers have (unless you are playing a fast moving killer) simply isnt fun. I have been playing 90% survivor, i only do killer when there is a 60k BP reward mission now.

And i really think survivor is so relaxing compared to killer.

Im sorry that you dont have fun anymore, im not sure if you play killer, survivor or both. But i would encurage you to explore new builds and screw the meta. I think there is a lot of fun, by making my own builds, especially if they are working.

One of the guys i play with every now and then, actually copied one of my builds, that just makes it more fun. To see that its working what you do.

I hope my little "speech" could encurage you to come back and have fun in the game once again...

Have a nice day :)