Now it is really hard to play killer

The meta on both sides changed.

Survivor went from 2nd chances to gen rush. Killers went from regression to tunneling/camping/slugging.

Depending on the person, those changes could easily make the game be absolutely terrible. We're not close to balance, we've ended up in a meta where neither side really gets to play the game.

Honestly, if youre still complaining about how hard it is to play killer after this update, you should probably either play survivor or just stop playing. I have 3500 hours in this game, both killer and survivor and Im telling you right now, this is the best place its been for killer in FIVE years. Like what?

I agree with you, its completely dependent on how someone takes the game or personally decides to play it. But my argument would be that the majority of players lack certain fundamentals because they relied so heavily on the things that were baked into the game to protect them. I feel for the people that say they aren't having fun because they lost X thing, but blanket statements on your experience being weaker as a whole don't really stand on those laurels alone. If you can't cope without that thing, that isn't a statement on the games health, its personal. Doesn't mean you're bad, just that you need to find alternatives or improve in other places.

We have this coming from both sides, meaning they're both missing this safeguard. I can relate. When the kicking/pop meta died like 4 years ago or whatever, I felt lost as a killer. I played Ghost Face with surveillance/pop/bbq/bamboozle, and I felt unstoppable and thought I was really getting good. Then they nerfed it to the ground and I realized how ineffective my pressure skills were and my game sense was ass without bbq telling me where to use pop every game. I decided to quit for a while cause I blamed the game, not me. When I could have been taking my chases smarter, or dropping bad tiles faster, stuff that I didn't have to do when I could just POP everything if I just got the smallest snowball going.

I understand why people are saying that balance isn't nerfering both sides at the same time but these were things that were both massively unhealthy for the game as a whole. 3 gening isn't particularly fun for either side, at least for me. And hitting a survivor and watching them heal back to full while in chase is probably one of the most demoralizing things that can happen while playing killer. These were addressed pretty well in my opinion. medkits were broken for way to long and coh should have never let you self heal. I think the DH change was harsh tho.

I follow the BP bonus cause I really don't care which side I play and right now I'm having this most fun I've had since pyramid head came out. My survivor matches have a lot of camping and tunneling but thats nothing new just a little more frequent than before. My killer matches are fun too. Throw on corrupt and deadlock to slow the game down and couple locater perks and just chase as much as I can.

Randomness is always going to be an element of this game, its in fact a huge gameplay mechanic. Maps are random, tiles are random, teammates are essentially random in solo Q, as are spawns for the most part. MMR isn't entirely accurate with skill, and some metrics found that a soft cap is implemented that makes the system really no different than the old ranking system. Essentially we are either playing against New players, bad players, and decent player. New is pretty self explanatory, they have little to no experience. Bad is people who have played for some time but still hover on the lower end of the spectrum in terms of skill. Decent is people who can survive a trial semi consistently and have decent to very good looping skills and understanding of game mechanics.

The problem is that most of the player base is DECENT, which also encompasses highly skilled or great because the mmr doesn't track that difference, only major ones. So one game you could have 4 decent players that look like potatoes compared the next group you get. That's my understanding at least. So you'll face drastically different levels of players, even on the highest mmr scale. And swfs changes everything when it is competent people.

As for your games, getting 1 hook with nurse in a 4 or 5 minute game (assuming it was short because you were gen rushed) is pretty definitive that you aren't particularly good with her. She's still the best killer in the game and any decent nurse can do a lot of damage with her, even perkless. You probably played 4 easier opponents the first match , even though they were close to similar mmr. Then your next game was better players but still in that mmr bracket. It can jarring to get a 4k easy one match and lose your pants the next, I know, but that is how it works. You wont win every game, you wont lose every game. And I'd be willing to bet you win most of them.

I understand if you don't want to sweat, but your a single killer, you can't just have a "low stress" game. There's a lot the killer has to take care of. besides you power and you perks, you are the one who judges the Trial's pace, now survivors have their little way of setting the pace, there's four of them. I could understand if you love playing killer, but if you are looking for "low stress" games, stick to survivor. They're expendable, not everything is on you, and the team shares some of the torture and the gnashing.

I strongly disagree with you. A perk system can and should ease pain points that players have with the game. Don't like not knowing where to go to get into your next chase? That's fine... run BBQ or some other info perk. Don't like it when the killer leaves you on the ground? Run Unbreakable, Tenacity, and the like. Don't like losing gens so fast you feel like you have to play absolutely ruthless to have a chance? That's what slowdown and regression is for. Don't like getting downed again without at least a chance of doing something in chase? Run self healing. Not everyone's tastes are the same. This isn't necessarily a git gud issue. Some players who are complaining probably could deal with whatever their pain point is that was dealt with with a perk, but simply don't want to so they won't. Video games are supposed to be fun after all.

Also, Pop and BBQ are actually some of the healthiest killer perks in the game bar none. They should have rebuffed at least Pop this last patch.

3 genning, medkits, and coh changes were all... at least decent. DH they took the wrong way, but it did deserve a nerf.

My addons? Should I have taken MDR+amulet? I think I took one of the weakest addons in game. Same about map offering - I didn't choose Gideon (some ppl still consider it survivor sided - so this is for them).

Also this whole thread is about killer being way too hard and basically unplayable - that doesn't look to be true if such a stomp is possible with ######### addons...

"try playing soloQ with just no mither then"

What does that have to do with anything? I don't like pig. I do play weaker killers, but not pig. But I can play clown from time to time and even if he's much weaker - it's still very much possible to win. What absolutely makes no sense is saying that killer can't win anything when picking weak killer AND handicapping myself - and demand for devs to change things so that it's suddenly possible.

Maybe do not handicap yourself if you want to win so much?

I have exactly the opposite experience. And I have waaaay more the 100hrs on killers alone (being survivor main).

Now show me the stats - out of 10 soloQ games in a row with no mither and no other perk - how many did u escape? I would guess it would be around 1/10 if you are lucky.

ok. So getting super hard carried against killer that can't finish 1 chase is "i'm so gud at this game". I think it does not make sense to continue with this debate

Wrong.