Something That Still Irritates Me
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I only bodyblock if my savior is dead on hook and I can still take aggro. Other than that, I'm going to leave. I already have enough problems as is
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You'd think such an easy change would be in place. But we may have to discuss endgame cause it could... actually no never mind. Solid idea
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Yeah I get pretty annoyed cause I'm being generalized by random people when I'm barely even playing the game as is and I still hear salt
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I'm so tired of people like you name shaming over this game while conveniently engaging in toxicity yourself. Proxy camping is a thing when the killer is hovering around the hook to force a trade. Let's not lie just to shame people
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Proxy camping is a made up concept so Survivors could continue to scream that Killers were 'camping' and pretend their made up rulebook had any validity.
Lets face facts:
- Killers facecamped. Survivors rightfully complained that it was unfair Killers could stand still and block all unhooks. It was changed.
- Then Survivors decided a Killer being near the hook was still improper, screamed about camping, and demanded BHVR do something to enforce this new definition of camping, since facecamping was now not possible.
- Then, when Killers would come back to a hook after hearing an unhook; Survivors wanted to scream 'Camping!" but realized that no; the Killer had left. So they invented 'Proxy camping' and continue to pretend this broke some rule.
Also; you just proved it's an undefined concept and then claimed it's valid; You claimed it's close enough to 'force a trade'. Someone ELSE claimed 'If you can see the Survivor from any distance; you're proxy camping'.
So, right there, it's proven it's a made-up concept that players scream is real while giving conflicting definitions because it does not actually exist with a set definition.
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I didn't prove it's an undefined thing. I specifically said if you're hovering around the hook area to force a trade, that's proxying. You physically cannot deny that when the term proxy means around/close to. I don't understand all this backlash when proxy camping isn't even that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. And judging by your tone, I don't think you created this thread for a good hearted discussion. I think you did it simply to create division and your words prove that.
Before you try to repeat yourself, I specifically said hovering around the hook just to force a trade not leaving the area and happening to see the notification because people got too greedy and decided to farm the unhooked survivor
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How exactly is the person wrong when you're ad hominem attacking them over a comment?
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Yes; YOU said one thing. Someone else said it was something else.
This proves it's undefined, because people don't have a shared, solid idea of what 'proxy camping' is. It's different for everyone because it's a made up buzzword (buzzphrase?) to allow Survivors to act outraged and pretend some rule or code of honor was broken.
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Some of these killers using this as an excuse to tunnel. Come off it, you were going to tunnel anyway. 😂
When I play killer, this situation almost never happens. Must be an MMR thing.
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Again, what you're doing is intentionally finding a way just to slander people. In fact, a majority of people including content creators have given the same definition to what proxy camping is so no it's definitely defined for the most part. If you need to rant then that's fine. Stop slandering other people while trying to act better than the people you slander. You aren't any better
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Who did I slander?
Slander is knowingly printing falsehoods about someone. Nor did I act better than anyone.
It's like you're just looking for a fight and to dismiss everything I've said with vague excuses and words you think sound scary.
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That's exactly what you did. You tried to undermine the topic of proxy camping simply to slander and paint survivors as whiny babies.
Again, I'm not the one making posts trying to shame people and deny a the existence of a strat in game just to call people whiny on the forums. You should really check yourself
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Being the fact that they are bragging about indulging in a toxic behavior and being proud of it I think gives me the right to call them out for it in any way I see fit.
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A, you're not the internet police. You don't have the "right" to personally attack anyone. B, they literally said nothing new at all. Tunneling BT bodyblockers is something a majority of people accept as a consequence.
As a parody character once said, "Don't go there."
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This is exactly why I hate BT and OTR as they are now. They will always get abused.
But hey, at least we can scream "Tunneler!" at the killer now without having to waist a perk slot.
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Spare me, people are toxic in this game just cuz there is not consequence behind it. If the reports for unsportsmanship behavior would be taken into account I guarantee you we would see less of that.
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Oh spare me the unsportsmanlike bs. You guys call anything and everything unsportsmanlike simply to cause an issue. We'd have a lot less toxicity if people such as yourself we're not trying to play judge, jury, executioner because someone said something you didn't like. Stop
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I actually never really understood the thing about proxy camping, though. As you said, its not that a big thing in the grand scheme of things. Usually when the killer is proxy camping ,you can still sometimes get a unhook done, but the killer has the chance to get into a chase afterwards, even if he couldn't interrupt the unhooking.
I usually proxy camp, when the survivors all play stealthy and leave the hook the second they get a whiff of my terror radius, I mean, in this situations patrolling the gens is just doesn't doing anything, so proxy camping is like the logical choice to do. And its nowhere nearly as obnoxious as propper face camping.
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There is a huge difference between acting in a certain way and keeping it to yourself and bragging about it, so why should I not call out someone for being scummy? For some reason killers find justification to tunnel someone out of the game over the slightest sign of altruism. Literally got tunneled out of a game for a sabo play, how dare I deny him the hook, how dare I get a pallet save, how dare I get a beamer save and how dare I use a mechanic that is part of the game. So by your logic I should just roll over and die so I don't upset the killer that can't handle a play that caused him slight discomfort. Give me a break.
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That's exactly my point. Nothing wrong with proxy camping but pretending it doesn't exist just to create a narrative feels wrong. No shame in trying to win but people gotta own it.
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I would just stop caring about the term in general. Tunnel who you want and go to church later, for Christ sake.
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Proxy camping is a term made up by survivors??
This is one I never thought I’d see lol.
What’s next? Tunneling and face-camping is just a term made up by salty survivors?
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This is the most sensible comment I’ve ever read on this forum. Thank you.
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Yes, Tunneling is made up.
Survivors will do the gen that's at 90%. Efficient, smart playing. Why do a gent at 0% when you have one almost complete?
But if Killers go after the wounded, previously hooked Survivor, it's 'tunneling' and 'toxic' for them to play efficiently. They are expected to ignore the wounded Survivor to go after the unwounded, never-hooked Survivor.
But I already admitted face-camping WAS legit. And then it was removed by allow Survivors to unhook from other angles.
So try again.
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The sad truth of the matter is that it's behaviors fault. They keep releasing bandaids in form of perks then they stack the bandaids like it's a jenga tower. It's all nice and dandy until the tower falls and they have no plan on how to fix it. So they start over on top of the ruins of last tower. Rinse and repeat.
What they could have done was make the survivor invisible, invincible, able to walk through walls at 200% speed for 10 seconds they can't interact with anything for that amount of time.
Simple solution, there is no body blocking, killer can't tunnel.
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op is complaining about the survivors asking for new antitunneling mechanics when supposedly they use the base bt in ways that promote tunneling
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Both, actually.
It's irritating that some Survivors complained about tunneling, got an anti-tunneling mechanic, and then used it for force tunneling...only to continue to complain about it happening.
And it's irritating that Survivors who do this, then shame, insult, and harass Killers for 'tunneling' when they forced it to happen. It's like the ones who do this actually think they deserve to get away after bodyblocking the Killer.
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good story but in the reality survivors bodyblocking with base bt is superrare and killers that tunnel are super common
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Ah yes. Because your experience is the baseline and the amount of times I've seen it, and the people who have ALSO said they see it allot, are wrong? 🙄
Cool story but in reality, survivors bodyblocking with basekit BT are pretty common and Killers tunneling has nothing to do with my entire post.
Try again.
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Yeah that's basically what I said.
Players have built in BT to help with being chased off hook but it very often gets used to body block rather than flee making the best scenario for the killer to chase the blocker rather than the unhooker.
So if players want tools to avoid being tunneled and then use those tools in a way that makes tunneling them the best choice for the killer, then asking for more tools to avoid tunneling is a bit of a mute point really.
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I never said tunneling wasn’t a good strategy?? I’m saying it’s not a “made up term” by survivors, it’s 100% an objective thing that happens in this game, same with proxy camping. You’re not a bad person if you do it but at least have the balls to own up to it lol.
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The problem is that you care about those who scream those nonsensical things. People are a whiny beings. I wouldn't pay attention.
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All you're doing is strawman arguing me and bringing up personal anecdotes when A. no one asked, and B. You're still trying to justify attacking someone over something the majority of people accept as a possibility. All you're doing is complaining to me about how other people choose to play the game. Stop embarrassing yourself. Crazy how I have to deal with weirdos on my day
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Please, its a forum! Lets discuss 😁
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*killers dealing with horrible map spawns / god setups / badly designed maps / gen efficiency swf/ not basekit early game mechanic after 6 years*
just bring reassurance jeeez...is not that hard people.
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Sadly camping, proxy camping, tunneling, hook/pallet/Gen/chest/totem grabs are NOT toxic behavior. If they were you could report them for such behavior but BHVR has said these are vall valid strats.
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No I actually don't have anything to discuss cause with the ghost state, you can't really bodyblock. It's just a solid idea
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But that might eat into the "fun" perks, which is always a problem. Some prefer to have stuff as basekit, so that you can still get what you want while playing your favorite build.
Thats why I strongly object doing any more basekit perks. If a perk were worthy of becomeing basekit it surely is worthy of a slot in your loadout. Otherwise you probably didn't care too much.
And the other thing is this: no build can, nor should, cover all your bases. Some eventualities will hit you with your pants down and thats ok, that the zest of the game. Other situations will see you with the perfect tool at your disposal and then you can shine. It would still me nice if we didn't have a lot of general tools that are always useful and stronger then the specialised stuff.
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