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What makes an action toxic to you in DBD?
If you play DBD somewhat frequently then I have little doubt you will have heard and seen the word "Toxic" thrown about a lot. I would like to ask you as a dbd player what you find to be toxic and why. For me personally it all depends on intent. If you tunnel someone with the intent to ruin their experience then it's obviously toxic however, if you tunnel somebody to give yourself an advantage in the match then I think that's certainly not toxic. Another example could be teabagging. That I find to always be toxic as the intent is always to annoy/anger the opponent therefore the intent is to always personally affect someone in a negative way. I would like to ask you guys how you measure toxicity in the game as the word is thrown about a lot in this community.
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I fully agree with you.
Tunneling or camping may seem toxic to a survivor, but it's a valid play style and in some cases necessary to stand a chance in a match. On the other hand, camping and continuously hitting the hanging Survivor or making other physical gestures does not lead to any game advantage and is therefore purely toxic.
Just like Teabagging as a survivor. It doesn't give you any strategic advantage, so it's just toxic. You could argue you want the killer's full attention so the others can work in peace, but I think 99% of the time it's just done to be as toxic as possible.
On the other hand, flashlight saves or head_on plays or various techs (vaulting tricks, etc.) are there to buy time for other players and to put themselves in a better position in the game. So I don't think it's toxic, it's okay.
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If anyone is clearly trying to ruin someone on their team's game, thats toxic.
If theyre trying to ruin the killers game, that's fair! The killer is literally trying to murder me. No quarter*.
....Unless Im playing Trapper, which I always am. In this case, they are toxic just stepping into my trial. Their deaths...
*: Exceptions being the killer is obviously new to the game, or severely underskilled.
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Nothing is.
Tunneling someone out either way the killer is trying to get a 3k, 4K.
T-bagging and hitting someone on the hook is to get a rise out of the player and throw them off their game.
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Texting someone over a game is toxic to me. Anything goes on the game unless it involves hacking or exploits.
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Would you not say trying to get a rise out of someone effects their personal feelings? If it doesn't then it doesn't do anything for you in the game and if it does then you potentially but not certainly thrown them off at the expense of intentionally trying to frustrate them. Personally to me that's toxic but from what I'm getting from you, you think it's not because it can potentially give you an in-game advantage, correct?
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what if i message you gg wp hope you have more fun games
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Incredibly toxic š
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Mostly just chat/messages to be honest.
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Killer probably would of played better if they didn't let the t-bagging get to them.
The same as the killer hitting someone on the hook. If the survivor didn't take it seriously, and hanged in there the other survivor(s) could of got 2 maybe 3 gens done.
If it's hurting feelings these players need thicker skin.
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No action IN GAME is toxic, outside of post game chat.
That said, this community is toxic outside the game imo
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I disagree with a lot of the take but thanks for the input. I definitely see where you are coming from. Although the "some people may need thicker skin" may be true for some people there are circumstances that an individual may be going through. Maybe this is their escape from their real life problems and then they come on to everyone BM'ing them and it makes what is already a tough time for them much worse. It is a small action but small actions can have a huge effect on individuals which is why if an ingame action is always aimed at personally affecting a players emotions in a negative way, it is toxic in my mind. However like I said with tunnelling, if it purely used as a way to win and not malicious then I think it's fine. But the intent of teabagging is always to frustrate/anger an opponent so it's toxic to me. I think it's a very interesting debate to have, thank you for your response.
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It's mostly the intent but it's really hard to tell most times. Do they want to use unfun but useful tactics to win or to wreck someone's day? Former is fine (for a given definition), but the later isn't.
Another, more clear case is end game chat. Taunts and threats give a pretty clear intent.
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Yeah, it's tricky to tell intent. That's why I think the word gets thrown around so much. Many people interpret tunnelling as toxic because they think you don't like them and are just targeting them for example, or they want to ruin your fun when often it's about getting an advantage and there is no intent to negatively affect your opponent.
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Usually we'll give the benefit of doubt and think it's just to "win" but it's never surprising when we do find one of the later.
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Basically any action that I can interpret as "f you, you suck, i'm better than you" is toxic. Teabagging or emoting after a pallet stun. Sitting in the exit gates for the entire EGC to teabag. Sitting on the hatch waiting for me to come see you teabag and then leave. Clicking your flashlight at me. Moonwalking in my face etc
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I get what you're saying
"circumstances that an individual may be going through."
"Maybe this is their escape from their real life problems"
But all online games have something that you can do to get a rise and throw that player off their game/next game(s).
I use to play The Last Of Us Factions. Players in this game complain about t-baggingš they don't know what t-bagging is until you go against the tryhards in that game.
Until all Devs from all games separate the uncompetitive from the competitive the emotionally players that let these little thing get to them either have to stop taking it seriously or maybe online games aren't for them not trying to sound mean.
Honestly I rather play an offline game then an online game.
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I agree, I think it entirely depends on intent.
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Lithe is apparently toxic now. Seen a killer yesterday who's name was similar to 'Use lithe and I'll face camp' šš
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You've got some good points there for sure. I still maintain my view, however I do see things a little differently now. Thanks for the civilised debate. You never know whether you're going to get a "I AM RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD NEVER SPEAK AGAIN" sort of person or a chill person that logically explains why they have certain beliefs about the game.
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