Sick and tired of being matched with potatoes vs try hard killers

Never experienced that "annoyance", probably some personal issue

Isnt there an official discord where you can find and play with a premade?

Out of interest, people who suicide on first hooks are mostly going down the same direction of this mmr thingy, so are more likely to meet with other people who do the same thing. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy of thinking a game is crap so I'll dc or suicide, then wonder why they end up in teams with others disconnecting or suiciding.

Not saying mmr is perfect or whatever (there's no objective evidence to prove or disprove), but suiciding to get out of games with subjectively-believed bad survivors or whatnot will unsurprisingly put you with others who are probably doing the same.

If such a thing were to be attempted, I would guess that it's be the opposite. I'd bet most people would be unwilling to endure long wait times, so it'd probably be a "lengthen my wait time for more accurate matchmaking" option being the alternate, and not the standard.

But again, I don't have a high degree of confidence BHVR could implement it effectively. The whole damned thing would probably break.

Yeah theres tons of matches I believe I could have escaped from if that first survivor didn't DC on first down or kill themselves on first hook. It's really frustrating. It's taken me a whole day to get from Iri 4 to Iri 3 because people keep leaving.

To a degree it is intentional.

The game is trying to match you up with killers and survivors of similar MMR range, but if there aren't any in your range then it expands. MMR also in this game just does not work as a good reflection of player skill. The games are too varied and rng laden to really make sense like that. It is better to consider it as a show of how much someone is vaguely successful at best. I'm willing to bet that most players have a relatively high MMR that in no way is related to their actual skill level. It doesn't seem to really even out until you're in the highest of high end or lowest of low end, but even then people with extremely high MMR are almost guaranteed to be matchmade with people lower than them because there are just less people grinding to that level.

As they explained in a previous live stream outside of kills and escapes no other data points found in dbd really serve well to determine MMR. We sort of have to face the fact the game does not know how to distinguish what we perceive as being "skilled" and the things we use to determine that are extremely subjective or generally just not quantifiable in a hard mechanical sense. The game can't tell the different between strategic proxy camping and face camping, farming vs comp level play, or the different between someone good at loops or bad at loops. Gen repair is the actual objective for survivors and the only thing that really matters to the game is did you do them or not and did you escape or not. For killers it's only looking at did people die and it doesn't really account for how outside of bp scoring events and emblems(which are also bad in their own ways).

You are probably quite correct in this regard. DBD has never really been sold as a hyper competitive skill based game and there isn't a huge benefit to sinking the amount of time energy it takes to get what people universally consider "good" in dbd. Most players tend to play this game very casually and it is one of the few games where skills from other games don't transfer over very well. So the general skill level is probably substantially lower than a lot of people think it should be. I would blame this perception on things like having a "Ranking", but not having a "Ranked" play mode. I think it creates a lot of misgivings about the nature of the game and player skill.

you did 4 gens all by yourself and looped the killer for 5 minutes or more but you got facecamped ---too bad ---- MMR decrease

your teammates were healing the whole game in corners , going down over and over , but they escaped -- good--- MMR increase

thats why ....MMR in this game is a joke for the most part.

I believe that the main problem is that the "Everyone past this MMR score is the same" point is set way too low.

The devs have said that once you reach a certain MMR score (maybe 1500 but I can't remember) then it essentially considers you the same as everyone else with that score or higher. So you go along for a while playing against people roughly at your skill level then the moment you cross the magic threshold you can get put into matches with people with several times your score and thousands of hours in the game.

So you'll get a barely experienced Dwight with three other survivors with thousands of hours so of course poor Dwight can't pull his weight or you'll get a killer who's been around longer than Otz facing survivors barely out of training wheels.

Lift that "magic point" a fair bit higher and you'll see far less badly matched players. Yes, I know it'll make wait times longer but I'd rather wait a bit longer to get a fun, fairly matched round than wait less time to get ROFLSTOMPED.

People wanted to get into games faster 1 year ago and were ok even with being camped or tunneled because they were actually playing instead of sitting in the lobby

Now people are asking for better matchmaking and some are ok with longer waits.

Duality of Dbd

i have been getting decent mmr

Look at the things you're asking and consider if that is really helpful information for anything more than points?

Are you in a long chase because you are good or the killer is bad?

Safe rescues don't require skill just being patient enough to let the killer walk away in most situations. The game knows what a safe rescue is but it doesn't understand the conditions that led to a safe rescue. It doesn't know the difference between a clutch last minute run out and someone just waiting. Time on gens is useless stat considering doing gens requires no inherent skill and isn't considered skillful even by the players. You're more likely to have you matchmaking be even more lopsided considering a lot of the metrics go down the more "skill" you posses.

Putting different survivors on hook, well there is only 4 survivors and you just as likely to have an entire just walk up to hook and wait for death as you are to have to play a proper game and juggle them. The game of course doesn't have the ability to parse which situation is which.

Survivors found is ranges from completely rng where you basically spawn right next to them or so modified by perks that it can't be used to determine skill because your personal skill is pretty much a non factor. If you play killers with tracking built in then it is even less on you.

You ever watch a person get downed by a killer standing still and swinging due to an auto clicker? I have. You ever seen a survivor run up to the killer and beg for death because they've decided they don't want to play against [insert killer] for [insert petty reason]? You're technically ending chases really fast so that must mean you're very skilled.

Kicking gens and pallets sort of has an inverse effect on your chances of winning. The more you do it the more likely you are to lose as it is a time sink so the real test of skill would be to keep that number super low, but that often isn't a thing on some maps that have huge amounts of pallets in a small area. Why base anything on that stat.

All of the things you're wanting are accounted for by emblem score which used to sort of be a part of matchmaking in the past and it was worse than what we have now. Back then the game basically couldn't even try to remotely balance out your games because average emblem scores were far too inconsistent. Most SSBM matchmaking systems aren't looking at ton of data points because while for people understanding how one got to a place is great, for a system the most important thing is the end result. In DBD though it isn't great the end result is killed or escaped. As I have learned when arguing this topic from your current stance in the past with other people on this forum and then doing research on SSBM matchmaking even the TrueSkill system which is probably the most consistent SSBM I've dealt with actually was designed to use far less data than you'd think. So much of what we do in game only makes sense tous humans, but is just noise to game.

Gotcha do nothing takes skill

Thanks for setting me straight 🙂

I see the light now

Don't tough gens, don't go for saves, move from locker to locker as long as I escape.

Down and put on the hook don't move get the kill rinse and repeat till 3k-4k.

I truly get it! My eyes are open to what it takes to be a skilled DBD player.

Thank you once again

Usually when someone thanks someone for helping them understand something they respond back with you're welcome.

They aren't ever going to fix matchmaking, because they prioritize queue times over even slightly trying to match up MMR. Hence the times as killer where you'll go up against 4 brand new solo queue players one match but the sweatiest SWF depip bully squad ever created the next. You've either got to learn to live with it or quit the game.