About the upcoming Anti-Face Camping Mechanic

I think it's fair to wait and see how this functions on its PTB, whenever that happens. I don't disagree with you, but it's possible the bar slows to the point it may as well be stopped, and there's not much of a reason to complain about that scenario.

Still, the bar stopping does seem like the better idea. We'll wait and see.

Yeah I hope that

1. The bar stops when survivors are nearby or when killer isn't around

2. Killers get notified that the bar is filling.

3. The range be reduced. 16 meters feels pretty far reaching (especially including maps like The Game where you could be below them unable to protect a hook but they get it anyways).

3. There is a time limit on when you can use the bar. It will get super old for both sides for the killer to be gone but the survivor unhooks afterwards. Neither side really wins in this

Proxy camping should still be fine though?

What about standing on the second floor on Gideon not close to stairs but the hooked survivor being just below you? A survivor could take you close to hooks on purpose without you "facecamping"..they have to treat this very carefully. I think it can backfire.

Problem is, this is not going to work against Bubba. He can just chew through the endurance and down you again straight after. If anything, this anti-camp mechanism might make facecamp Bubba more effective.

I don't think this mechanism is going to go over well. It still has some room for exploitation on both ends. IMO, what should be done against camping is that the hook timer gets slowed per survivor working on a gen, squared. IE: One person on gen -> 5% slower hook timer. Two people on gens -> 10% slower hook timer per survivor, totalling 20%. Three people on gens -> 15% slower hook timer per survivor, totalling 45%.

Makes gen-slamming actually counter camping, makes it so that survivors occupying the killer around the hook renders the mechanism near pointless, and gets massively broken down if the killer chases someone off a gen like they should.

I'd argue this is more of a basement makes camping far too easy problem

"(or any skill in some cases)"

Yeah because there is so much skill in dropping pallets and doing gens.

1 chase = 3 gens

That's what needs fixed.

The thing is, it is impossible to make a perfect solution which works all the time and cannot be abused. I think their solution is decent and I am quite positive about it, even if it has weaknesses. E.g. proxy-camping is still allowed and strong. Furthermore, there wil still be Survivors who decide to not do Gens but crouch near the Hook because the Killer who camped for 90 seconds will surely go away during the last 30 seconds. And those will let the bar move slower.

However, in general it is an improvement because it makes camping weaker (more or less, depending how smart the other 3 Survivors are) while making sure that a Killer does not get punished when the Survivors swarm a Hook and the bar deactivating in Endgame. (Which is debatable why a Killer should deserve the Endgame-Kill when they sucked all game before, but there is not much they can do anyway at this point, so it is fine that the bar is deactivated when all Gens are done)

Buffing or Nerfing things does not mean that there should be any compensation or penalty or that the other side HAS to receive the same treatment.

I agree it shouldn't generally be the case that they get a buff to areas if some are nerfed, but it is true that things like gen defense are very weak nowadays. This doesn't change the gen rushing meta

I think the point of the mechanic is to heavily discourage what BHVR views as anti-social behaviour, it's not for the sake of balance. So it makes sense that they would make it available regardless of whether it's the first or second hook state, whilst disabling it entirely when the gates are powered.