Do you think all the characters' sexual orientations should be revealed?

I just think its a bit pointless. Makes no difference if a gay ghosty is chasing me or not.

First off, "worried" is the wrong the word. I'm not worried but I made a prediction. And that prediction is based on a basic understanding of cause and effect, human behaviour and observations of these. Also, care to explain why you used quotation marks on "worried"? Usually quotation marks in this setting would be used to imply that a word someone used isn't what they actually meant.

Even in this thread there are people that imply that David is tunneled more often because he is gay. I'd say the fact that this is even an argument already proves that the focus has shifted from the actual premise of the game. It's like a car with a million little gimmicks. Yeah, they all may be nice but the more things there are in your car the more things can break. And we have seen that happen already (blackface Bubba comes to mind).

Up until now BHVR have handled this situation with as much respect and dignity as possible. I'm sure there will be more LGBTQ+ characters in the future and really for those who care, I think that's a good thing. But using already existing characters and just putting a new label on them can easily feel forced, rushed and disrespectful as a lazy attempt to create diversity without putting actual thought into it. And that would be sure to upset pretty much everyone.

In my opinion it is the right course of action to have most characters (with only a few exceptions) stay ambiguous. That way you don't alienate anyone from a majority of characters but can still add representatives of a certain group or culture for the people, who care.

I disagree. You can point out that there is a lot of representation in the horror genre (and you would be right) but that doesn't mean it's intertwined. When I think off horror I don't think about LGBTQ+ at all. Not even a little. If I see them represented, then that's perfectly fine and I'm sure there are a lot of people who are happy about that.

But really when I think about horror I either think of an uncomfortable atmosphere reinforced by the strange feeling that something terrible is about to happen or graphic horror like gore. You can have a horror film full of LGBTQ+ and you can have basically the same film without any of it. The only real difference is representation. (And maybe the setting. It'd be hard to have a film without LGBTQ+ representation set at a pride parade.)

Think of the original Halloween film for example. There was absolutely no focus on LGBTQ+ related topics and it definitely fit the horror genre. In Halloween Kills on the other hand, there is a gay couple. And that gay couple doesn't define the film. Because the characters are not defined by their sexuality either. Instead, a gay couple is used as a means for representation, which is a nice way to relate to a wider audience.

Another example are the Nightmare on Elmstreet films. In the first movie there is no focus on LGBTQ+ related topics and it is classified as a horror film (although you can't deny how goofy some of it is). Compare that to (I believe) the third one in the series where there was gay representation. Did it change the premise of the film? No. Could you have had basically the same film by adjusting only that part? Yes. Because sexuality and gender don't define horror and ideally they don't define characters (mostly because then you'd have to conform to stereotypes).

But why promote our differences as a means of solving the issue?

If you are you, and I am me, and we are human, then surely we don't need to add anything else to it.

If we segregate ourselves into all these groups, then all we are doing is bringing attention to our differences like they are something to be analyzed, rather then saying I am a human just like you, so I am going to act like a human and do what we humans do.

My Dad once said something to me that never left me.

He said, "Back when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, all I wanted was to be able to walk down the road safely, and to be treated like everybody else, like a human being, rather then be treated like I was some abomination or different to anyone else around me, nothing more."

That changed my perspective forever, he didn't want pride marches, special representation and to be singled out for the way he was born, he just wanted to live his life like everyone else.

I think the world we live in now is many, many times better then the world my Dad grew up in, now a days if you walk down the road holding hands with a same sex partner, or in clothes people don't think you belong in, sure maybe a few people will be idiotic, but that number is significantly smaller then it was, and gets smaller every day.

All the battles have been one, all we are waiting for is the War to end, and time will see to that.

I feel like representation is BHVR's bread and butter.

I may not always agree with their design and balance choices, but presently I feel as though they are setting the industry standard for representation in a live service game.

The way and rate in which they are diversifying their roster feels incredibly natural, so I'd say they should keep doing what they are doing. If there are people who still feel underrepresented in the game, I hope for their sake that something they can relate to will find it's way into the game sooner rather than later.

Agreed. Adding new characters specifically as members of the LGBTQ+ community is probably the most sensible way to handle this topic. More representation is not a bad thing (quite the opposite) but the more ambiguous characters there are in the game, the less you alienate players from them. And you might even upset people by defining just one character's sexual orientation.

Imagine if it was clarified that Yui was straight. Many see her as lesbian (and I see where they're coming from) and making her straight will upset them. The same thing could happen, if she was revealed as lesbian. In David's case (as far as I know) there wasn't really any speculation, which is why it worked as a 'fill in the blank'.

In BHVR's case, I think it's best to let them handle this naturally. They have proven that they will not stand for discrimination and support diversity in the most responsible way and the more naturally it happens the less problems you cause.

You can be whatever sexual orientation you want, but it doesn't mean you have to put out a memo regarding it. I can see a same sex couple holding hands, and think that's great and good for them, it doesn't mean i need written confirmation of their sexuality.

So has Diablo, so has Guldan, so has Nagash in Warhammer and Deckard Cain.

Plenty of fantasy characters have massive amounts of lore, but they don't all include what they got up to in the bedroom.

Just like David, they could make em gay and it won't change much I guess. I don't care that much, being some guy after all. But it's whatever.

I'm sorry, I'm sort of boomer, not "woke" or any of this stuff.

I think who ######### who and in which positions should be left in the bedroom. It's a personal matter of people.

I agree that legal rights should be provided for everyone, but on jurisdicional level. No "quotas", "marches" or similar .

So, please, let the characters alone, ffs.

(interesting how quickly I'm gonna be banned for controversial opinion)