"Made For This" intentionally broken to keep things 'fresh'?

Base BT is nothing though, considering that good killers will either just hit you right off the hook and chase/down you anyways or wait it out. As for base Deliverance that remains yet to be seen. But the devs have shown over and over that when there is a lot of (negative) feedback on a perk, they recently have been changing those perks quite a lot. So they probably will do so with MFT, and most probably nerf it way too much into the ground and make it useless lol. This will cause everyone to circle back to the same 10 perks they have been using since the dawn of time 😂

if that was the case, this chapter would feature a licensed survivor. It is an original survivor. I and many others can easily get it for free.

Mikala was also an original survivor, one you can get for free. with shards. that you get in excess during events.

It's weird at a glance to gauge how meaningful 3% is. As a survivor, most of the time I can't even tell, and killers just ditched me most games and downed my teammates instead. As killer though, it really brings up the "is this person cheating?" vibes.

Especially against 110% killers. Small rock loops really felt like an infinite with the whole 3%, killers having a bigger collision box and can't follow as tight. I have never felt so bad for a trickster. I let the man kill me in the end to not waste the 5 cakes.

But to me, I wonder: if maps were better balanced, would the community be torn about it being op? Or would it be like hyperfocus, op on paper but not really in practice.

Well considering on a 40% escape chance the killer only has a 47.52% chance to win ( 3k or 4k).

Mathematically, the game would be a fair 50:50 with a ~42% escape chance, which would result in a ~42% chance for killer win.

...Atleast in the philosopy of of setting the killer win chance equal with each individual survivor.

I may be misremembering but I think Peanits explained that it doesn’t work that way. Each escape counts as an individual win for the killer, kind of like a mini-game, if IIRC. Because survivors don’t ‘win’ or ‘lose’ as a group. They do so individually. And to balance that with killers each survivor’s individual game has to count as an individual win/loss for the killer. Basically the game is (1v1v1v1) vs 1. So the kill rate being 61% means that most killers average a 2.5-3K across their matches.

I didn't, you simply didn't get my post. I gave you 2 examples of things being ignored for YEARS and additionally pointed out that the devs don't cater to any specific side, they do/change what they want at the end of the day, regardless of it being a perk, a mechanic, a map, killer, and so on.

The fact that you added your last sentence to your OP made me initially not even want to reply to this topic because it shows that you don't quite understand/know what the devs have said over the years about what they want and certainly won't change about their game. Specifically where using communications is concerned. They want SWFs to play their game, why wouldn't they? It's the point of making a product; one that sells to as many as possible, and gaming with friends literally does that. So why the heck would they punish people for that? They haven't added comms in-game, but aren't going to punish people for using Discord and so on. What you're asking is pure entitlement and makes absolutely zero sense from a business pov.

Kills/escapes have never been a good indicator for how good or balanced something is. A facecamping Bubba could get 4 kills with 4 hooks, while a Huntress could get 1 kill with 9 hooks. The system would declare Bubba clearly the Winner. While those 9 hooks actually required more skill.

But is the 4k by standing in front of the hook more skilled? Or would the 9 hook with chases be more skilled?

The system is supposed to be skill based. Right now, it considers the 4k to be more skilled.

I think, basing the skill evaluation on just kills/escapes is no reflection of the actual player skill and can be manipulated to easily.

While hook based also wouldn´t be perfect, it would at least reflect the actual skill better.

Hey hey hey, I don't tunnel out at 5 gens unless it's a scrim or against a team I know goes hard.

But yes, I enjoy competition. Stomping people gets boring fast.

The Problem with the current matchmaking is, that it doesn´t take loadouts into consideration. So, a person who doesn´t want to try hard 24/7 but only occasionally, will get matched with try hards. I enjoy a fair match. I don´t enjoy getting stomped and i also don´t enjoy stomping. At least, as killer i can adjust my playstyle, when i notice the skill level of the survivors. Usually, when i play survivor and notice the skill level, its already to late.

Sometimes i want a match that requires me to focus. Sometimes i just want to chill and complete the archives. Thats one of those moments, where i think the game needs a casual and a hardcore mode.

A 5 minute match usually isn´t fun. Doesn´t matter who "wins". Killers using high tier killers could be a coincidence, the will to win or simply a question of taste. For example, years ago i mained the original Freddy. Just because i enjoyed his playstyle.

Tunneling someone out at 5 gens doesn´t sound like fun. But then again, some people consider everything as tunneling, even when the killer tries his hardest to not tunnel (body blocking with inbuild BT comes to mind). At the end of the day, people should just have fun. If you had fun, even when you lost, does it matter that you lost? It doesn´t for me. A good chase or jump scare makes the game exciting for me.

The team most likely does try to balance things, but a lot of people give conflicting opinions, and the team pretty much has to choose who they are going to upset and who they are going to make happy. Also, it's common business practice for games to make DLC characters strong on release to get more sales early after release and to get more people talking about the game. Most perks will get nerfed eventually if they are strong, and I think this is an okay thing. Imagine if they released a new survivor that came out with 3 of the worst perks ever and nobody used them ; the game would be completely unchanged because nobody would be using these perks or the survivor, right ?

Im on the side that thinks made for this is fine because its only active when a survivor is injured and not exhausted , but only while bloodlust is still a thing, the devs want to remove blood lust in the future, so when that happens, the perk will have to be nerfed. I only play Soloq as survivor so maybe theres a SWF tactic im not aware of.

It seems both of you forget that this is not a 1v1 game the game has be balanced around the idea that 1+1+1+1 = 1 not 1=1 and that belittling is not a constructive argument.

Oh... my bad!

Back on topic, Made for this will probably stay like this for a very long time. Simply because the devs base their decisions on stats. A perk that is highly attractive for survivors that want to be chased, won´t get hit hard, because the stats won´t show a high survival rate.

Just like other perks in the past.

Stop. DBD is not balanced around high MMR. I cannot stress this enough. If you are playing at high MMR and find yourself complaining about efficient survivors, here's a hint: Humble yourself, give people hatch, be satisfied with a 2k instead of pushing yourself to get the 4k. If you get none, so be it.

Dead by Daylight is not an esport. E-sports are boring. They cater not to the average player, but to the high skill player who plays like they're trying out for Nationals. Now, I'm sure you think that that's what you want, and that's how the game should be, but you are not the majority. The majority is the average player.

In average-skilled matches where the killer and the survivor are closely matched in terms of skill, MFT makes minimal difference. This applies to Huntress, Slinger, Wraith, Dredge, Sadako, Pyramid Head, Pinhead, Doctor, Knight, Singularity, Skull Merchant, Clown, Freddy, Spirit, Blight, Nurse.

I am, by no means, a god-looper but I do have some knowledge on how to effectively loop and chain tiles together. But I have seen people run MFT and get downed 15 seconds into chase. I personally run MFT and have found that it mainly helps me in making that ever so tiny distance needed to make the pallet. The perk is very map dependent, and heavily relies on the killer not looping efficiently.