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DEVs, solo survivor escape rate is 10-15%. This game is "balanced"?!

DEVs, you just spit in the face of solo survivors who bought your game. The game is absolutely UNPLAYABLE for those who play to escape! You are completely ignoring big part of your community, which is a big mistake, keeping people frustrated will not work forever.

This problem should be your first priority instead of nerfing survivors even more. The average survivor escape rate is 35-40%, it's much lower for solo, but you keep nerfing survivors. Probably not because it's necessary, but because the other side makes more noise and demands unjustified changes. You have to realise that some people will NEVER be satisfied and there are much more such people among killers, I'm sure you noticed that. They will demand more and more, it will never end. Are you ready to completely break the game, ignoring your own statistics and common sense? Do you want them to become silent? They never will, live with it.

It's time to wake up and fix your game, you have stats, you have facts. It's time to make survivors playable again, especially solo otherwise you will shoot yourself in the foot!

Comments

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    I don't know, I don't really like the nerf to decisive strike, but I feel like killers should always be dominant to wins. With their powers and brute strength and speed, it does make sense that the win rate is 40%. I just don't really like the nerf to decisive strike, since it can be used only once per match anyway. :/
    I thought Decisive strike was fair enough, with just one more chance to escape.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    The escape rate for survivors is 35% on average with lower ranks having a lower escape rate (30%) and higher ranks having a higher escape rate (40%)

    However the 4k rate for killers is only about 25% (the list was separated by Killers rather than by rank so take that number with a grain of salt)

    Thus to make the game more balanced we would want to increase the 4k rate and decrease the 3k rate

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167
    Don't have numbers as there's no ingame tracker, but my success as a solo is way better than 10-15%. That just shows survivors are doing something wrong, whether its teamwork or failure to adapt their playstyle.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited February 2019

    @DemonDaddy said:
    Don't have numbers as there's no ingame tracker, but my success as a solo is way better than 10-15%. That just shows survivors are doing something wrong, whether its teamwork or failure to adapt their playstyle.

    So where are you getting the numbers from?
    If even your own survival rate is higher....

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    Random numbers are fun.
    We need specific where did you get that info from

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167
    Master said:

    @DemonDaddy said:
    Don't have numbers as there's no ingame tracker, but my success as a solo is way better than 10-15%. That just shows survivors are doing something wrong, whether its teamwork or failure to adapt their playstyle.

    So where are you getting the numbers from?
    If even your own survival rate is higher....

    Average number of game I can play vs the number I succeeded in. Not claiming I am great but on a typical night I do better than 1/10.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @DemonDaddy said:
    Master said:

    @DemonDaddy said:

    Don't have numbers as there's no ingame tracker, but my success as a solo is way better than 10-15%. That just shows survivors are doing something wrong, whether its teamwork or failure to adapt their playstyle.

    So where are you getting the numbers from?

    If even your own survival rate is higher....

    Average number of game I can play vs the number I succeeded in. Not claiming I am great but on a typical night I do better than 1/10.

    So when you talked about the 10%, then this was based upon your own games?

    I recommedn watching some youtube tutorials (there are plenty out there) and learn how to play survivor :wink:

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167
    @Master
    Was referring to post title and projection that solo was less than the percentages provided by Dev's. While it may just be attention bait, I found it was less than representative of a solo's capabilities. But yeah, never think to big of myself to turn down good advice & tips.
  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467
    edited February 2019

    @Ihatelife said:
    Where did you get that info?

    @Master said:
    Where are you pulling those numbers from?

    I escape definitely way more often and im solo lol

    @Milo said:
    Random numbers are fun.
    We need specific where did you get that info from

    He made them up.

  • ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG
    ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG Member Posts: 359
    Well it was shitpost Sunday.....
  • Watery
    Watery Member Posts: 1,167
    escaping isn’t the main goal. getting the proper emblems to pip is. escaping is just extra points. not necessary
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    10-15% survival rate is still okay, I don't see the issue, it's DEAD by daylight not survive by daylight

  • Mr_Myers
    Mr_Myers Member Posts: 422

    10-15% survival rate is still okay, I don't see the issue, it's DEAD by daylight not survive by daylight

    He based the numbers off his own games...
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Mr_Myers said:
    MhhBurgers said:

    10-15% survival rate is still okay, I don't see the issue, it's DEAD by daylight not survive by daylight

    He based the numbers off his own games...

    Oh, didn't know that. Still, 10-15% would sound fine to me, it's around the same escape rate that survivors have against my frank's mixtape legion and legion is one of the worst killers in the game.

  • Mr_Myers
    Mr_Myers Member Posts: 422

    @Mr_Myers said:
    MhhBurgers said:

    10-15% survival rate is still okay, I don't see the issue, it's DEAD by daylight not survive by daylight

    He based the numbers off his own games...

    Oh, didn't know that. Still, 10-15% would sound fine to me, it's around the same escape rate that survivors have against my frank's mixtape legion and legion is one of the worst killers in the game.

    Ironically enough since Legion came out I've kinda noticed Freddy isn't ######### tier. I get killed more by him than some other killers like Trapper
  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    @Mr_Myers said:
    MhhBurgers said:

    @Mr_Myers said:

    MhhBurgers said:

    10-15% survival rate is still okay, I don't see the issue, it's DEAD by daylight not survive by daylight



    He based the numbers off his own games...

    Oh, didn't know that. Still, 10-15% would sound fine to me, it's around the same escape rate that survivors have against my frank's mixtape legion and legion is one of the worst killers in the game.

    Ironically enough since Legion came out I've kinda noticed Freddy isn't ######### tier. I get killed more by him than some other killers like Trapper

    True, compared to other killers, I see others call him one of the worst, but I have never escaped from him, always one of the first to die from him.
    Wraith, Trapper, Hilliybilly, Pig, Leatherface, Huntress, Nurse, Doctor, and Michael Myers I have escaped from before, almost to Hag and Legion, never the CLown, but have always died from the "la la la" of children from Freddy. O.o

  • Condorloco_26
    Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    However, 37.5% of crows caw in average 2 seconds after they're disturbed, while playing against a doctor you're expected to shout at least 4.5 times in a match considering 80% of the time you're brought to at least madness tier 2.

    Leatherface misses 42% of his chainsaw swings attempted vs Davids or Jakes and Megs are disarming 72% of the traps in matches against Trapper.

    Please balance accordingly!

  • @Troman . I really want to know where you got theses stats.

    100% of people who drink water die. I am sure all of the survivors have had some water once or twice in their lives. Tbh they are doomed from the start. It's kind of a mercy killing.

    Survivors are playable bro, I play survivors everyday. Killers aren't playable because the only one that dies is me from high blood pressure. Git gud.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    You know at least 70% of lobbies hold a form SWF right? (Whether its duo's, triple or 4man) so I dont see how solo is a very large portion of the community.... but yes solo needs the team knows this..................... I bid you with a git gud 
  • e8Lattice
    e8Lattice Member Posts: 189

    <3 Solo Survivor thug life

    (because every game needs a hard mode with nuanced, strategic, harrowing game play reliant on sheer bloody minded stubborn determination and sheer force of will alone)

  • HazeHound
    HazeHound Member Posts: 814
    It was the survivor side who made more noise since the very start. If you are bad at game it doesn't mean its unfair. 
  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    My survival rate is below 30%. But you're missing the important point here. Escape is only one factor in your success as survivor. Repair a lot, help other survivors a lot, waste the killer's time in chases a lot, then die. That's a success. Escaping is just the cherry on top, it definitely should happen less than half the time.

    That said, I agree it's more difficult for solo survivors. Devs have a hard time addressing the balance issue between solos and SWF. But you still have the wrong way to look at it. You should enjoy difficulty instead of complaining about it.
  • Tbh SWF is hard mode. Not many of my friends are rank 1 and some of them are only there because of me.
    SWF isn't easy mode for everyone. I Escape more in solo.

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    I usually escape unless a DC ######### is in the game. Nowhere near 10%. LOL

    Numbers where?
  • tizzi717
    tizzi717 Member Posts: 89

    I feel you bro, it's absolutely a nightmare play solo at high rank. This game lost his balance since summer 2018. They remove too much pallet too much windows. And spirit and legion breaks a lot of game meccanics. Like the vault animation of spirit, you never can understand what it's up to

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    They removed, like, 1-2 pallets per map. The Spirit is a mindgame killer, she's supposed to be like that. No comment on the Legion.

  • Marvett
    Marvett Member Posts: 159

    if the escape rate for solo survivors truly was of 10/15%,I would already have left this game then.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675
  • Marvett
    Marvett Member Posts: 159
    edited March 2019
  • tizzi717
    tizzi717 Member Posts: 89

    Git gud get 3/4 with huntress with only her 3 perks.

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    @Nea_Death_Experience "SWF is hard mode"? You can't be serious, there is nothing more easy in this game. If you escape more often as solo surv, that does only mean that your SWF teammates need more practice and that your random teammates are more experienced. It doesn't mean that SWF is hard.

  • AlexAnarchy
    AlexAnarchy Member Posts: 685


    And yet I win 80% of my solo survivor games cuz I got good at other things than just trying to loop.

  • Nea_Death_Experience
    Nea_Death_Experience Member Posts: 316

    Bro you need to take a joke. I am saying the people I play with are bad. My friends are casuals and are actual rank 14-18. SWF is hard more for me but it was a comment in fun. You read one line in my comment and got triggered. Chill.

  • Nea_Death_Experience
    Nea_Death_Experience Member Posts: 316

    Bro you need to take a joke. I am saying the people I play with are bad. My friends are casuals and are actual rank 14-18. SWF is hard more for me but it was a comment in fun. You read one line in my comment and got triggered. Chill.

  • Nea_Death_Experience
    Nea_Death_Experience Member Posts: 316

    Bro, im saying my mates are bad. Take the joke. They are casuals, it is hard mode.

  • SmokePotion
    SmokePotion Member Posts: 1,089

    ummmmm What? The average, by actual factual numbers, is actually 2 survivors escaping per match. Just because you get killed 40% of the time doesn't mean i do.

  • Zagrid
    Zagrid Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 1,000

    I love a good old thread I can just say

    ”Prove it”

    to

  • Aziizou
    Aziizou Member Posts: 1

    For all the killers who think the game is all about them, there's some people here who enjoy to play survivor and want to have a decent chance to win, I'm sorry but i'm playing since the game came out (I'm rank 5 now trying to climb seriously since a month) and some killers have a ridiculous advantage over survivors in some cases its not even fun... If after 3 minutes everyone is on the floor because there's a fkn Hex Ruin, and a Barbecue and chili AND a one shot damn skill... good fkn luck for the survivors to win.. and I guess killers don't play survivor so they don't know... -_-

  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340

    You can't reach rank 1 and that means killers have it easy?


    I am rank 1 both usually and played more survivor than killer. Killer is harder. Try it and see for yourself.

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    barbecue and chilli is RIDICULOUSLY easily countered. Once somebody goes down hide in a locker till he is on a hook for about 4 secs, leave the locker, return to gen, gg.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Yeah I was in a game against a legion other day and he couldn't get me down and finally gates got powered but I'd killed his totem. He resorted to the moonwalk exploit to finally down me then hard camped me on hook and kept slashing me. I just laughed at him the whole time knowing i'd won.

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