Is it just me that thinks made for this is fine the way it is?

Bloodlust is 5% per stack, up to 15%.

the main problem with the perk is that "average" to "bad players" arent really gonna get amazing value from the perk is they just use it as a hold W helper and when they do they are gonna said "Oh , thats nice , MFT value finally" , on the other hand people that understand how much distance and how smaller the hitbox of the survivor is , are gonna get a massive advantage against m1 killers when connecting tiles and knowing how to hug correctly the loops to make them even more stronger against m1 killers that had no build in - anti-loop

(which is bad , because playing m1 killers with no anti-loop is already pretty rough this days)

"the 3% haste isn’t anything crazy, I barely notice it when I play as killer, it really isn’t that bad"

that 3% can literally turn maps with a lot of safe connected tiles into insanely strong god setups if the survivor is good at looping , it literally gives you 1 extra loop almost on any tile if u ran the tile correctly tho , which means that the perk can extend chases even longer by just the condition of "you get hit , you get rewarded" unlike resilience which requires good timing still to get value out of the vault speed bonus , and them HOPE + MFT which is absurd.

soo basically MFT hurts m1 killers for the most part, against the top tier killer you can make the argument that the perk is "balanced", also the perk has not a single indicator to the killer to know when MFT is in play other than guessing which sucks HARD ..and makes you paranoid everytime.

but thats the problem only top tier killers and killers with specific exhaustion addons can counter a single but strong perk and that shouldnt be a thing IMO.

That perk is just straight up garbage lmao

It's entire existence and usefulness is predicated on the Killer not tunneling.

I think it's fine. Alot of people complaining about it were already complaining about struggling before the perk even came out. It's just another thing to point the finger at. Even if BHVR completely eliminated the perk, they'd still be here the next week complaining about something else.

And if we want to start adding conditions to perks, then killer perks are fair game too. No more benefit to just kicking a gen (if getting injured is just typical gameplay, then so is gen kicking). No more Lethal Pursuer, which I see in every second game at least, activating by just spawning into the game. Corrupt too, I guess, since again all you have to do to get the benefit is spawn in. Let's make people earn it, yeah?

No Mither should have 3% haste effect, not Made For This.

The reason old DH was a problem has nothing to do with people using it to try and juke the killer into getting a free health state. It was a problem because of the dash giving decent players an opportunity to extend chases and reset or connect certain loops for an unhealthy amount of time.

That's why people compare MFT to old DH because it gives you the opportunity to reset a chase by reaching a window, pallet or loop you wouldn't normally make. That alone can extend a chase by 30-60 seconds easily, which is why DH was nerfed.

While I didn’t mention it explicitly, I was referring to perks that grant haste benefits requiring conditions to activate for both Killer and Survivor.

If Killers got a perk that automatically gave them 3% movement speed when chasing injured Survivors which stacks with Bloodlust or other haste granting perks along with exposing survivors who complete a healing action within the Killer’s terror radius for 10 seconds, what do you think the response to the perk would be?

I would think it’s too much and warrants a nerf or a huge restriction be imposed on the perk. That’s how I view MFT too.

MFT in its current form can be implemented if maps are updated to be more balanced or the weaker killers are updated to be stronger. However it is pretty obvious that the devs do not have the capacity to accomplish either anytime soon so the easier alternative would be to be very strict with balancing haste giving perks.

The drawback is you cannot pair this with any other Exhaustion perk (other than DH+Iron Will, but DH doesn't apply to first down). I don't have a problem with MfT on 90% of the Killer cast, because I would be more frustrated or slowed down by an effective Sprint Burst or Lithe or Balanced Landing. The only Killers I 100% agree it makes life miserable for are Huntress, Doctor, and Knight.

Huntress forces you to snipe the rounded corner shots, or above the loop. Doctor is slowed far far far too much against MfT that you only lose distance, so you are effectively without a power until the pallet is dropped. Knight's Guards are too slow to catch up to MfT, but Knight is horrible to play against to begin with, so nothing of value is lost. Huntress can use skill to still win at loops, so you only lose on an off day or if you were bad with Huntress to begin with. Doctor is the only Killer unfairly impacted by the perk. Doc is horribly outdated regardless, and if he got Wesker's bugged grab effect at vaults (teleporting Survivors before the vault even if mid-vault) then he would be playable. Miserable to go against, just as bugged Wesker is, but playable.

I still think the Endurance effects should be removed/swapped to another perk, Buckle Up being a prime contender, but that is the only nerf MfT needs.

yes? I wonder why killer would complain about a perk that prevents them from downing survivors and makes their objective harder. /shrug

Again, valid points but I would not even remotely consider throwing Doc a bone outside of fixing his latency issues unless he got some nerfs to his tracking. If they nerfed his tracking, I'd be more than happy for Shock Therapy to only slow him down from 4.6m/s to 4.0m/s instead of the current 3.08m/s.

People thought Eruption and Dead Hard was fine too and bHVR developed those perks.

Sometimes people are wrong about their notions and sometimes bHVR makes some perks that wont show up as bad as easily.