Nurse is still very problematic killer

What if they changed second and third blink into where she can't go through walls and objects?

The thing with Nurse is you need to be able to break los twice. If there is only a single los breaker then she can blink to that los and now you are in the open. With all the clutter they have been adding to the maps I don't think she is that large of an issue anymore since you usually have stuff to work with.

Yeah. The increased line of sight breakers make it so Nurse has to guess way more than she used to.

With the older map reworks, when a survivor broke line of sight, then Nurse could usually just blink a bit beyond where the survivor broke line of sight, and have full vision of the survivor regardless of where the survivor ran to. But when there are a bunch of line of sight blockers next to each other, there's no guaranteed blink destination when the survivor breaks line of sight, because regardless of where Nurse blinks to, the survivor might still be not in line of sight after Nurse teleports.

This means BHVR indirectly nerfed Nurse by adding RNG into her gameplay.

The autoheaven maps feel like there is a a lot of clutter. The changes to farm also seem to include random clutter in the corn. Seems like they are increasing clutter in maps when they touch them.

They are rare. Maybe you are one of the few survivors who swears your ass off to win and are stuck in high MMR and are stuck facing the same players because the game thinks lower skilled players are too weak to be your opponents.

I admit I haven’t played in a month since my PC died, but even then, when I played, I played SoloQ or SM Myers. When playing SoloQ I hardly ever faced Nurse or blight. If maybe see them once out of every twenty matches. And no, I didn’t just die and feed the kill rates. I maybe escaped 40-50% of my matches and most of the killers were at the level that I had a fighting chance. Most of the time, I’d die saving a teammate after gens are done.

You can complain all you want. It doesn’t make you right and it doesn’t mean what you complain about is broken. You not liking something does not equate to it being broken. You try to come if as unbiased but your posts drip of bias with every letter you type. It’s really easy to sum up your opinion- it’s not okay for survivors to face strong killers that they have to be really good at the game in order to win, but it’s okay for killers to face strong survivors in a team that are on comms, that the game isn’t balanced around.

I seem to be one of the few people that think Nurse really isn't that difficult to play and learn. She has a high learning curve, but after that her difficulty plateaus, at least in my experience. (This is speaking as a PC player, I understand on console she is far more difficult.)

People will use that difficulty to justify her breaking the game, but her 'difficulty' just isn't there after 10 or so hours playing her. I think many people realllly overestimate the skill that's needed to play her, imo Billy and Blight (without the busted add-ons) are harder to play.

I do realize that difficulty is subjective, though.

Hey bro I don't care one bit to help you get better against nurse wether it be advice or 1v1. You'll never get better complaining my guy no matter how warranted the complaints may be lol

I’m probably the least tryhard survivor there is and I can still easily loop a Nurse. It’s not about being casual or not, just predicting where they will blink. And looping them around LoS blockers to make them guess and making them auto-aim tiles is probably the efficient way of looping them. Eventually after awhile, you start learning how to counter certain killers by going against them often. Nurses are pretty easy to loop, on the other hand, when they’re bug abusing spasmodic/agitation with iron grasp and starstruck, there’s nothing you can really do but hide and hope for the best.

BHVR could also nerf things that are specifically stronger when the survivors are using voice comms to relay game information. Nerfing altruistic healing speed could have been an example, but BHVR decided to nerf self healing speed instead, which actually widens the gap between solo q and SWFs.

Nerfing MFT's extra ability for altruistic healing, is another example of shortening the gap between solo q and SWF. Removing EMP's ability to remove biopods from teammates is another way to shorten the gap between solo q and SWF. Just about any nerf that targets players working together, is a way to shorten the gap between solo q and SWF.

Otz had a pretty good guide from a few months back, some slightly outdated info but still very helpful:

You keep going to good nurse players as some T1000 unstoppable machines, while the video straight up recommends watching comp nurse matches to see how people deal with her. They are human, and the point of the video is exploring ways to force mistakes and expand the mindgame in both directions.

Nurse will be a problem for you as long as you don't learn to verse her.

Just play her for a while and see how easily she can lose.

I've been called a god Nurse on many occasions yet I lose a bit less than half* of my games. (~30k registered blink attacks so far.)

Survivors who beat me do not give up, know how to be unpredictable, know all the Nurse weaknesses and how to exploit them. Recently I've even versed players who managed to doge hits point-blank by dodging "hatchet"-style just when I'm about to hit after a blink. They obviously know the timing perfectly.

Then you have the survivors who try to handle me as they would any M1 killer. Needless to say it doesn't go well for them.

*) still probably a bit better than the Nurse statistics that are putting her as one of the worst killers except in high MMR where she is average.

That's exactly it. YOU have no way to do anything in chase, if the Nurse doesn't screw up. It all comes down to HER. That is not how an interactive and fair killer works. Ideally, you'd want both sides in a constant back and forth allowing for predictions and mindgames to happen that go beyond hoping your opponent plays sloppy.

That is not the case for Nurse. And that is why she will never be balanced. As long as the Nurse plays it right, she will come out on top in any situation.

Then my question is just like as a M1 killer in shack against a decently good survivor. What is my play? What is the correct thing for me to do? Because as long as you don't mess up, then I cannot win in this situation. Which basically means, if you play good enough, then I cannot play good at ll because I have no skill expression and always end up getting hit. You see where this is going? The survivor isn't a bot. So of course they will upset, if they cannot make a right play.

There is a difference between making a mistake and having no right option. This is why M1 killers are generally perceived as weak and it's also why Nurse is still overpowered. You cannot say something like: "I played better, so I deserved the hit." if there was never any real chance for the survivor to prevent that. After all you cannot even measure the survivor's skill in that situation. It's like comparing reell and complex numbers. You can only judge by the absolute outcome (hit or miss) but not by their actual values (correct / wrong plays).