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How rare is Hag?

LordGlint
LordGlint Member Posts: 8,699

Been playing various killers lately that I don't have much experience with. Had some fun with Sadako, then played Ghostface for a few days. The last 2 days, I decided to play Hag abit and see how that goes. I figured I was in for a miserable time. Instead, I win...quite abit. One reason for this is obviously due to my Hag being in low MMR currently, but even in games against high prestige players seems like I'm doing way better than expected. Is Hag just so rare to see that NOBODY knows how to go against her? I doubt I'm just a Hag prodigy.

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  • AssortedSorting
    AssortedSorting Member Posts: 1,348

    Prestige doesn’t equal skill.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,699

    True, but it does mean more time played. You'd think a P100 player would outperform someone who's played this character for 2 days now.

  • AssortedSorting
    AssortedSorting Member Posts: 1,348
    edited July 2023

    Depends on how frequently they play against the Hag. Survivors might have more simplistic core gameplay, but they do have to understand 27+ different Killer Powers and abilities. And if you only face that Killer maybe 3 times over 100+ matches, there's nota lot of time to learn.

    Doesn't help that the Anniversary event allowed people to engorge their prestige levels.

  • The_Krapper
    The_Krapper Member Posts: 3,259

    In my opinion the hag is a really good killer that is slept on a lot especially after her main weakness was removed because flashlights don't burn the traps anymore

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,699

    Thought they made them able to be removed without flashlights

  • nars
    nars Member Posts: 1,124

    havent seen a hag in at least 3 weeks now.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,699

    I'm having fun with her, although I AM learning how irritating MFT can be against her. Just had someone loop me against basically nothing. Pallet was spent but since survivors can hug loops tighter than killers, it was enough to make it take FOREVER to inch closer.

  • Krazzik
    Krazzik Member Posts: 2,475

    Hag is a slower killer anyhow so you don't really want to chase much if you can help it. But yeah sometimes there's not much else you can do and MFT would be awful for her.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,699

    It wasn't SUPPOSE to be a chase really, but when you can loop any piece of geography at all... You can loop a rock with MFT and I won't really start gaining distance until BL kicks in, it's so dumb.

  • The_Krapper
    The_Krapper Member Posts: 3,259

    They did but its not near as fast you still have to crouch up to it and disarm it as to where before you could snipe it with a flashlight while running in and keep going

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,439

    I have yet to see a hag ever set up a web in all of my time playing dbd besides me and the content creator I used to watch for her(neegose). That's like 15 whole hags!

  • Hex_iButt
    Hex_iButt Member Posts: 233

    I think there's also the idea that many do not believe Hag has the most interactive gameplay, and can get boring pretty quickly. If anything, I see Hag more than I do Twins, but even then the chances are pretty rare.

  • THE_Crazy_Hyena
    THE_Crazy_Hyena Member Posts: 374

    I saw a few Hags during the event, though all of them were playing the camping game

  • Nazzzak
    Nazzzak Member Posts: 5,875

    I rarely see her, and honestly I can't remember the last time I escaped a Hag. She's always struck me as strong but I often see her referred to as a weaker killer so I dunno.

  • Nomade
    Nomade Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 46

    No. but it does equal map and gameplay expierience. High prestiege players should pretty much never be matched with low MMR new players for this reason reguardless of their skill level, they still have far more match expierience which translates into an incredible advantage.

  • Ariel_Starshine
    Ariel_Starshine Member Posts: 937

    Mad rare, I play a LOT and haven't seen it in a long time. At least a month.

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,101

    So rare for me that I can go weeks and not see one.

  • DBD78
    DBD78 Member Posts: 3,470

    Hag is decent at best really overrated and against teams that know how to counter her she is more or less the worst you can play since they can just destroy a trap and run to closest loop without you having a chance to hit them, and they can simply wipe traps out also I don't know what BHVR was thinking with that nerf. MFT also makes sure Hag can't catch a good player.

    It's all about not being found out early so you can set up the net and hide traps so I would avoid Corrupt and perhaps go with Monitor. I have even seen people use Leathal on Hag just to see if a survivor is running towards Hag and avoid being found out.

    SWF having a trap destroyer and the rest on gens is a nightmare. Hag is very rare I would say probably as rare as Twins.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,998

    Last couple of hag I played against just did basement camping so I’m glad she’s a rare killer still

  • ShyPirate
    ShyPirate Member Posts: 379

    Hag is rare enough that the one and only time I encountered her recently I saw her running at me and said out loud and with zero irony, "WHAT THE #### IS THAT!?"

  • katoptris
    katoptris Member Posts: 3,215

    Haven't played as her in awhile and I have her prestige before the whole prestige rework thing. She rare to go against to the point some never seen her body blocking add-ons ..

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,699
    edited July 2023

    I've been doing moniter, nowhere to hide, lullaby and Overcharge. Been working pretty well. MFT is miserable with her though.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813
    edited July 2023

    I rarely see Hag. Maybe once every few months. I think she is underrated but she has a learning curve and is not that fun to play as IMO.

  • Shroompy
    Shroompy Member Posts: 6,826

    who?

  • Xxjwaynexx
    Xxjwaynexx Member Posts: 345

    Hag is a camping killer like the twins excell at slugging. If you chase with hag your playing her wrong. She's technically a trap killer which camping tends to favor.

  • Samwill226
    Samwill226 Member Posts: 41

    Played her last night as killer. I love her for a change of pace. I enjoy her more than any other killer

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,904

    I used to play her a lot when I started DBD, it just kinda dropped off.

    I think in all the time playing survivor there are only 2-3 games against her that I really recall. She is a pretty rare sight.

  • Wahara
    Wahara Member Posts: 237
    edited July 2023

    I play her a lot still. I mained her since 2016. She's fun. I like running variations of stealth builds on her. Hysteria, Plaything, Haunted Ground, and the fourth I experiment with - it's usually gearhead or Franklin's. I get tired of running gen slow down on hag and figured if I'm so slow the best way to close distance is to sneak up on people. The build works well most of the time. Hysteria is my favorite hag perk. Stealth let's you play a little more aggressively and go after people caught with their pants down.

    She feels better to play after the COH and dead hard nerfs. She's still shut down pretty hard by teams that know how to trigger the very edge of the trap and be outside of teleport range, but that takes some practice to get good at. You don't see that terribly often but it still feels awful when you experience it. I wish more people played her. Her snow ball is still one of the funnest things in the game, in my opinion.

    Hopefully the devs will get it together sometime before I die and figure out that she needs a basekit buff to her traps. Counter play should evolve and change based on the flow of the game where both killer and survivor can do something. When hags counter play is understood the buck stops there and she's just completely neutered, that's it.

    As for hag camping, you know you can crouch, right? Unless shes face camping, that's really not going to work unless she has mint rag, so that's on you if you trigger that. It's just a little annoying when I'm always accused of camping because I won't take obvious bait and let someone run me to the other side of the map where I don't have traps. Yeah, I'll chase you as a 110% killer with no power, sure dude.

  • DY86
    DY86 Member Posts: 570

    Hag is quite good a killer, but I feel like she is a Killer stuck on old dbd. Kinda like a trapper who teleports. And since she requires some setup people don’t usually play her that much

  • moonwinx
    moonwinx Member Posts: 51

    Hag is pretty rare. She's not the least common for me (that's Twins) but she is a very close second. I keep track of all my survivor matches, and its not uncommon to go a patch without seeing her at all. I have 2106 games logged, and I've seen her 35 times (that's since Oct 2021 when I started keeping track). Her kill rate is actually less than the average killer kill rate (at least for my games), so I don't know that I would say that players in general don't know how to play against her. I think it is more that you have to treat her differently than you would most other killers, so there's a learning curve when it comes to newer players, and they have less chances to get experience against her. She's got some fairly simple counter play (avoid triggering traps by crouching or wiping them away, don't give her an easy three gen, avoid going down near basement) but someone who has been playing for a year or less has probably gone against her fewer than 10 times.

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,904
    edited July 2023

    The big healing meta of the previous few updates really killed hit and run playstyle and a lot of hag is hit and run.

    You want to be utilizing traps not chasing, so you tend to spread a lot of damage quickly rather than commit to a down.

    With the rebalancing of healing we may see more hag, I got back to her again recently and a lot of teams do seem to struggle against her.

    This is just playing base hag too without any trap modifying addons.

  • DavidHypnos
    DavidHypnos Member Posts: 730

    Hag is one of my favorite killers and she can be very, very strong if you play her correctly. When I first started playing DBD she was one of the first killers I tried and I got my butt handed to me because she has a huge learning curve. But once you get the hang of her she can be incredibly oppressive. Not to mention her add-ons just got major buffs.

    It sucks how rare she is because I love playing against her too. I’m terrible at avoiding traps so I get jumpscared a lot which I love. I see her once in a blue moon - had a match with her on RPD earlier which was fun but I think the player was new to her which as stated can make her hard to excel with.