Made For This cannot continue to exist in its current state

agreed , the only people not complaining about it are probably the people that are playing no TR killers and the top tier killer main players. trapper , píg , legion , onrio , billy , myers ,hag , bubba , plague , freddy

those low tier killer suffer from the same problems , either no reliable mobility powers or an actual good anti-loop which are what MFT basically is good at it , making killers without anti-loop more weaker , and killer with weaker anti-loop just a M1 killer with no power.

MY PERSONAL REWORK:

Made for This

You were born to survive, and raised to adapt.

Whenever you are in the Injured State  Made for This activates and you benefit from the following effects:

• Gain a 4/5/6 % vaulting speed bonus while running.
• Gain the Endurance Status Effect for 5 /10 /15 seconds after completing a Healing action on another Survivor.

Made for This cannot be used when suffering from Exhaustion, but does not cause the Exhausted

"I didn't come here to be robot food!" — Gabriel Soma

With this giving the perk a chase-oriented style, returning the beloved vault speed build at the same time buffing a bit the endurance effect when healing someone while removing the good awful 3% speed which can be problematic on many maps / killers.

PLS BHVR MAKE IT REAL 😪

idk u lost the point of stacking stuff , which people already do with the disgusting HOPE + MFT + DH combo.

just saying that the perk woud be waay more fair to use if it was a perk that gives you a 6% of vault speed.

combine that with resilience and it becomes a 15% which was a thing with spine chill back in the day and that was fun for both sides and this isnt even taking the secondary endurance effect that mft gives you , i think thats more than enough.

DBD survivor players trying their hardest to accept a good perk design over a broken fun thing for just their side.

aight fair enough ,but I think the perk would be more atractive if it was something good as chase perk and at the same time something that survivors need to be good at to get value out of it , I personally had 0 troubles with that combo back in the day.

my pov back them: wow this player is vaulting more quicker but at the same wasting 2 perk slots to do it , meaning they have less options to use during the match but i need to be careful about messing my timing or doing lunges to early/late.

idk as killer or survivor i rather prefer that over a 3% of haste which has no counterplay or downsides to it.

It's nowhere near as strong in practice as some are claiming it is in theory. Practice never works out the same as theory, survivors need to loop flawlessly and consistently throughout a chase to get the value out of MFT, while a Sprint Burst or a Dead Hard pays off in the second you use it. One wrong read, or one second caught on a corner of a loop, loses the chase.

3% Haste theoretically extends a chase by 20%. But for one thing, it entirely depends on the length of the chase as to whether or not that is impactful. 20% extra on a 5 second chase is 1 second, and it's highly situational as to whether or not that gives the survivors anything of value. But if that chase lasts for more than 15 seconds, then killer gets Bloodlust, which is 5% and outclasses MFT altogether. This serves as a hard cap on the value MFT can give you. You might get one extra loop out of it, which is essentially what every exhaustion perk has the potential to do when used correctly.

And that's the key point, using MFT correctly has a high skill floor, on par with being able to use a 99'd Sprint Burst mid-chase, and the survivors who can pull that off are going to out loop you anyway.

Like I said, MFT has given me no trouble at all. And on the odd times it has, I've been very clearly outplayed by the survivor, it's given them an edge, but it hasn't been the sole reason they've won.

MFT is no better than any Exhaustion perk, and survivors are allowed to get a half-decent perk every now and then. Shaking up the meta is a good thing.

2% haste would be extending a chase by around 13.3%, so you'd need to be chasing at least 8 seconds to gain any value out of it, while 1% extends a chase by a potential 6.6%, this is now requiring a chase of around 15 seconds to give the survivor one extra second, and 15 seconds is where Bloodlust kicks in. So effectively, 1% Haste is giving the survivor absolutely nothing.

So I could see 2% working. A decent survivor could probably get value out of 2%, though the average survivor will not. While 1% is entirely useless for even the best survivors.

Wait until you figure out how to 100% SB so you can get injured loop for longer with MFT and then activate SB

I agree with your post. MFT is as good as survivor who uses it.I don't think the perk need change but some killer may dislike going against it so killer player should an option to run a consistent small bonus haste perk. The only consistent haste perk you can use now is pwyf but i am sure that @dbdthegame does not want to use that.

I would absolutely welcome another killer haste perk. PWYF can be a bit... cumbersome to use.

Something like: each unique survivor hooked grants a stack of 2% haste, each survivor sacrificed removes a stack.

if we have reached a point where perks need to be changed because weak killers like legion are affected more than nurse than we'd need to remove 90% of all perks.

That's impossible. As soon as you aren't exhausted anymore SB will immediately activate if you're running, which causes exhaustion. SB and MFT literally have anti synergy. No mither and self care levels of anti synergy

Funny... Imagine complaining about a good survivor perk after a long time while killer perks are still somewhat rancid to this day. The fun part is that you also wanna say that hope is overpowered with it. It is a fine combination for it's price in my opinion, since no matter how you look at it that's half of a survivors loadout, which only comes to fruition in the end game basicly.

While killers can run perks that almost exclusively circumvent the survivors from getting that far. Look at all the gen regression perks that the killers have at their disposal and yet for some reason it is still enough to run 1-2 of those to cause pain.

Also killers who are actually good will not complain about this perk/combination because they will know that the survivor who runs this makes a mistake is dead and can capitalize on this.

Now to give you a point about the old DH. It is fair that it was nerfed because it was a free time waster one way or another. Or the time when survivors effectively bugged out with DH or negated a hit after it should've taken effect. This time MFT is not that bad,

As stated in here if you are bad it may save you like once or twice a game, but if you are good and consistent it wil look like that you are abusing the perk, but otherwise you shouldn't crack the whip over survivors because you will sound biased. Survivors nowadays don't get nearly as many chances with perks being good as killers.

But if the maps, tiles and buildings would be the way they used to be (infinites, loops that favor survivors horribly well) this complaint would be acceptable. But if I look at things the way you do but as a survivor main, then the following killer perks should be nerfed:

• SH: PR (just because 4*15% is too much)
• DMS (because why can it block any gens and why can it combo with PR)
• NOED (because it's boring and such an easy perk that gives almost a free kill or 2 if used at least decently)
• Eruption (because you still scream and 10 sec of aura read is too much)
• Jolt (because 10% for a down is too much)
• PGTW (Because 7-11*30% is too much)

yadi-yadi-yada... This list could go on for quite a while if I would be biased, but since I know that killer perks need to make a more significant impact that most survivor perks I'm not complaining half as much as some of the killers I met. Also besides killer perks, can we do a hot take on most killers basically spamming powers with close to 0 or very little cooldown just if we are at the point of complaining...

(Respect to the following killer tho: Huntress, because she actually needs way more mechanical skill because of aiming and punishability and Trapper for the limitation in resources)

I don't know why are the killers throwing tantrums constantly about survivor perks one at a time basically and getting stronger and stronger perks constantly yet survivors getting nerfs after nerfs but still having 2-3 good/strong perks is a sin. This reminds me more of a CoH state because it came in strong, all the killers started runing sloppy, and other heal slow down perks, the perk got nerfed to 50% self-heal speed, was still too strong, then along side with the second wave of nerfs making it a conditional empathy+botany*2 now its not nearly as good ever since the med-kits got gutted alongside the perks.

And let's take a word on killer add-ons:

• They offer various effects (not a bad thing, but the capability of stacking more than 3 effects on survivors by a single instance of killer power is just immense. , [Blindness, Exhaustion, Exposed, Hindered, Mangled, Hemorrhage])
• Some are overtuned for their rarity (Adrenaline Vial for Blight or Demo's Black Heart or Spirit's 2in1 add-ons buffing Haunt Duration/Speed/Recharge Rate [Finally got nerfed, Thank God] or Clown's speed slow add-ons)
• Some are completly useless, and/or irrelevant (multiple of Nurse's add-ons which have a better counterpart/are too niche/uncomfortable to use)

So if survivors get the treatment of "Let's make their items worse", then I think it's time for killers.

And I can already imagine that a lof of people seeing/commenting to my comment will be like: "You are the problem.", "Just another salty survivor main.". Call me what you want but it won't make me less entitled to my opinion. And keep in mind that the game can be just as dead without survivors as it can be without killers. So if survivors leave the game because it becomes far too killer sided killers can't play it either.

Just asking (I seriously question the correct ammount) How many loops of that size exist with those conditions? And how many pallets are almost unplayable? Because in that case look at the opposite as well. Also scenarios exist where other killers fair better against different things too. And to the clip: a 99'd SB wouldve done the same.

And a comment to you looking at my post history: Ruin one was before it got reworked and BBQ gave 100% bp bonus for free so constant use and too much benefit for nothing, and I stay firm on the Wesker topic of him being overplayed, overloaded, and bugged via hitboxes, well the overplayed part until the last patch when my games consisted of 60-80% of them playing against Wesker. But nice try trying to look at my post history and making me look bad.

Okay then let's stay on topic:

Made For This is 1-3% Haste when Injured And 10 sec Endurance when healing a state (just have to heal to change the state not a full health state), can't be used while exhausted, but won't cause exhaustion, correct? As far as the wiki is correct, yes.

2 Things with the perk:

• 1 you have to be injured to make any use of it, so any form of exposed basicly breaks the perk any time you hit a healthy survivor and exposed perks are most of the times fair.
• Neither of the perks effects are useable while exhausted by any means, so you have a ton of ways to counter it the most relevant one being fearmonger or if the survivor is not the sharpest sometimes they counter themselves. Main point is it's a sort of risk reward perk, that you don't get an exhaustion perk with short term benefits but get a long term small boost.

Besides the perk you mention endurance from other perks. Why are they exactly hard to track of?

OTR: if you wanna make use of the 80 seconds renders you useless for your team for that duration, but people like to tunnel so that warrants the perks existance there,

BT: does this too but for 10 seconds with the speed boost lasting +10 seconds too so those are anti tunnel perks, which lose effect after literally touching anything that's objective related (gens/heals/totems etc.).

DH: needs to be timed and 0,5 second window is not the easiest to hit especially when the killer huddles up to you, and the perk can be used 2 times/survivor/game, and it gives a 40 sec exhaustion.

Styptic is 5 sec and eats a med-kit, so thats a variable.

Buckle up/MFT/Soul Guard/WGLF are the only ones that can confuse you, depending on who you hit but it's not impossible to comprehend it.

Also only 1 endurance can protect you at a time basicly besides Mettle of Man which overwrites a hit. But if you still look at it all of them have a condition still :)

Maybe BHVR needs to up the weaker killers? -shrugs-

Sorry bit urv mains have to then do with the gen regression perks and all that stuff.

every single gen reg perk got nerfed this is the weakest gen perks have ever been in the game

and the two semi strong ones (pain res + pop) require hooks and one of them is limited to only 4 uses per Survivor.

complaining about gen perks rn especially with Survivors bringing toolboxes, bnps (still strong), prove thyself is skill issue.

There's plenty of killer mains who are playing against the perk and have no issue with it, and they aren't just using the top tiers. Telling people who disagree with you that their opinion means nothing because *insert whatever excuse you feel like* is an incredibly dishonest way of debating anything.

Your experience of the game is not the only one. Even if you find 20 players who agree with you on here, that's still not a representation of the overall player experience. Maybe instead of telling killer players that they are playing against bad survivors when they disagree with you, you might want to consider the possibility that you are getting outplayed. That's also a possibility.

Why do survivor perks need to have downsides? Like I said to another person on here, the roles for killers and survivors are different. The majority of the players are solo queue survivors. That role requires a bunch of skill that the killer doesn't need to have. As survivor you need to be able to work with and around your teammates with limited information. You can't do the gens and escape unless the team is somewhat coordinated and their actions can often lead to your death. In that environment there's a lot things that require skill so it isn't necessary to bog survivors down with a ton of perk requirements. When I play killer at least I don't have to account for anyone other than myself. That's a massive part of the game I don't need to deal with (requires less skill). But that's fine as I will be utilising skill for other aspects of the match.

The role of both sides feels so different that I don't think you can make a comparison between perks requirements, as skill expression occurs in different aspects of the match for both sides.