Team Eternal Got Disqualified From The Community Cup

I mean, they probably had an observer in it to overlook the whole thing, so why not just tell them about this specific rule before the match starts? Instead of just letting them run into the knife with such a rule that makes no sense, despite I have no clue how long the rule set is and if this part is easily to overlook, especially because it has no reason exist in the first place.

Yeah, it would still follow the rule (even if it is just stupid in this regard), but would prevent the opposing team from gaining an advantage because they are salty about losing. (Would be a different matter if they reported it from the start, reporting it after they lost to gain an advantage is simply unsportsmanlike)

The rule itself should be changed. It makes 100% sense for Perks and Killers, but not really for Survivors.

The rule in most games makes sense but in DBD in particular this is incredibly dumb.

Like suggesting someone playing Nicholas Cage has any effect on the game whatsoever is goofy af, that being said I'm surprised Eternal got into this situation in the first place they're experienced enough to know better.

Rules are rules, fair enough;

Not enough thought was put into this one, tho.

Sounds like the Wraith got bested by this Survivor team and very pettily found a cheap way to live to kill in another match, or quite possibly get ousted again… this time w/o a loophole.

This !

This rule is important in case of major bugs being abused and unknown to the majority of players.

I hope the wraith is embarrassed, that’s mad salty.

Are they not allowed to wear legendary cosmetics that come out within 2 weeks of the tournament? Because that's basically the same thing.

Wraith is a sore loser to complain about that.

I agree that the rule for a survivor skin isa a little dumb, but what is dumber is reading the rules (thereby reading you cannot use a new survivor) and deciding to run it anyway.

Eternal would have been far better to have proposed changes for future tournaments, rather than running a survivor that is clearly prohibited. Also, there is the issue pf the psychological advantage: a killer will see Cage and be made to assume they might also be running the perks too. From that perspective, the rule is less dumb than previously thought.

So the only truely dumb thing was the decision to run the survivor, even though the rules were clear.

It could be argued that a new model and survivor sound could effect the Wraiths play even if at an insignificant level, but its in the rules and while many of us who don't actively watch or engage in Comp DBD think its dumb, the ones who do engage in Comp should know. Everyone calling Wraith a sore loser is correct but that doesn't mean a rule wasn't broken.

To be fair, if someone is playing the new survivor you might go into thinking they are running one of his perks are try to play around that. For example he may have tried to play around Dramaturgy and not thought that maybe Cage had Dead Hard because of it.

Also there might be a bug that affects the new survivor that hasn’t been fixed yet and could be abused, so I don’t think it’s that unreasonable to ask someone not to play them.

It is a silly rule, but it’s clearly stated in the rules they can’t play a new survivor yet so I don’t really feel bad for Eternal in this scenario.

It’s on Eternal for breaking the rule and there should’ve been a penalty.

That said, the penalty for that being a DQ is ridiculous.

Normally, I'm a bit more amenable to spirit of the rule arguments, but did it escape you that the rules explicitly forbid the use of new survivors as well? I don't think it's possible that the rules couldn't mean that.

Survs are not "just skins" because of the grunts of pain and appearance of the models. Not all models look and sound the same. Visual and sound cues can be considered "advantage" to those kind of people I guess.

I personally don't see it as too much of an issue but I am just a filthy casual pub player.

And yeah that wraith was definitely salty.

At the risk of getting pretty far out into the weeds, it's not always that cut and dry. Teams like Eternal are usually playing in more than one tournament on any given day.

One of the hardest things about comp is simply parsing whatever tome of rules the organizers have put together for their tournament. Every one can be slightly different. It's why organizers are typically more lenient and just do point deductions instead of outright disqualifications on a first infraction.

Additionally, comp has a fairly standardized ruleset at this point. EXCEPT, of course, the community cups. They've insisted on having a bizarre non-standard ruleset and *also* having stupidly harsh penalties. The running joke in the community is that you have a harder time not being dq'd than you have beating the opponent. There's a reason participation in the community cups dropped so sharply.

It's what always kills me about new big tournament organizers. The first thing they always do is go out of their way to ignore standards and precedents that have been set and then wonder why everyone is unhappy with it.