MMR

I have reached a point where I'm a firm believer that with all the downsides a casual and a ranked gamemode would bring, it would still be a far better system overall. I don't care if I go up against sweaty killers in casual mode sometimes because in SoloQ I ONLY play against those and vice versa.

Chaos mode: A second game mode with a bunch of random stuff. You play Claudette? Well, the killer hits you and now you are Ace (or any other character that you own). The killer plays Clown and suddenly they are turned into Nurse. Your perks keep switching randomly. Pallets de- and respawn randomly. Basically, they add another game mode that is so random, that you can't play it competitively because everything is so unbalanced.

A casual game mode is not going to help. Because then you also have more competitive people, that just want to go in there and stomp the hell out of their opponents. Removing MMR would lead to the same thing. You have a few people that stomp everyone else.

I don't think there's a good solution, tbh. Skill (such as it exists in DBD) is extremely hard to quantify, and even if it could be, the matchmaking parameters are comically loose, and when they have been tightened for testing, the queue times became unbearable.

Lobby dodging is just the cherry on top of the crap sundae.

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This is part of why I don't think separating the modes will help. People who are committed to winning at any cost will just stay in the casual mode because they are terrified of losing, even if the victories are hollow. Kind of why hardcore tunnellers always tunnel.

I don't think you played this game very long.. Or if you did you would realize the old ranking system actually made sense but just needed tweaking not to be obliterated and replaced with the new SMMR. The old ranking system allowed for random matches because people didn't play everyday and they decide to play near reset as a top tier player. When they fly threw the ranks it becomes more and more competitive and more challenging or they find a few lucky matches where there is still competition but can be overturned with a switch of a lightbulb. You can't stop toxic/try hard/sweaty players yes I understand this but it beats playing against them 90% of the time. If you like playing 100% sweaty all the time by all means play your Ranked Matches. I will relax and have fun and sweat from time to time on Casual but not enough to say I'm uninstalling this game.

Who said it was going to be easy? Also, I would play ranked if I wanted a challenge against top tier players otherwise, I'll play casual if the ranked matches are too much and by too much I mean "not fun anymore". Ranked and Unranked has worked for many many games why not this one?

SBMM and MMR are not real, stop believing blatantly and obviously false information

My killer lobbies are filled with 1 or 2 high prestige players with the others around the high teens. My survivor lobbies are filled with level 1-4 prestige with me at 17. Get stomped and get stomped lol

It may not be easy. I'm just thinking there will be lots of people that would play casual because they would think it will be easier.

They need to make balance decisions that impact low skill players and not high skill players and vice versa.

This CAN be done in DBD very easily. Here is video talking about the premise in TF2, but it still applies here in DBD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1p42KtZOCw&t=203s

The main point is where he talks about the B.A.S.E. Jumper item in TF2.

For example, if you watch low skill survivors play, you'll see them predrop shack pallet at 5 gens, panic, vault over it, and get hit anyway. So if we nerfed killer shack, for example, you wouldn't hurt the low level players, because they aren't able to do the things high level players do with shack to begin with. I'm not for making gens take longer. Personally i think they should take less. But nerfing the strength of loops so that things are more properly 50/50s would go a long way to fixing the balance of the game.

You have to revert it back to what it was. What we have right now is practically random. A couple months ago, when it was less loose and had longer queue times, you somewhat knew what you were being paired with/were going up against. You also have to make the game more bearable for killer, whether that means nerfing survivor stuff or buffing the killers. The reason you've got a noob team vs a killer who's actually trying is because 1) the loose MMR/low MMR ceiling forces you to get bad teammates, and 2) killer has dealt with so much crap of theirs getting nerfed that only the most resilient, dedicated, and elite killers remain, who have no problems with camping, tunneling, or slugging any of you. Ideally, the MMR gets fixed before balancing does, because you can't get good data of what's good or not with this crap data we're getting now.

SoloQ is just unfixable in my opinion. Also, reverting back would be nice but they would never undo something they believe in.

But what if they didn't have to nerf or buff. What if everything was balanced but people complain anyway? What if people were complaining because they were tired of losing?

I feel like a lot of the perks that were nerfed shouldn't have been nerfed. Both Killer and Survivor. The only one that I saw was pure abuse was Decisive Strike. I think even survivors can agree that perk was a time waster for the killer.

So then what ends up is both sides having nothing fixed while being split for longer ques that still have the same troubles.

That sounds like throw your hands and give up to me. Its sad because I've been playing this game since 2018 and its always been a come back to game for me. But once something better comes along I don't think I will be coming back and that is what is going to happen to this population. When all they had to do was create 2 environments. Give the players a challenge or play casually not just 90% lost rate. To respond back to the op hes right "This SBMMR is a joke"

Yeah, I am brand-new to the game.

Jokes aside, I was only talking about a casual and ranked mode. Not about the old Ranking-System.

When it comes to the old Ranking System, I agree that it was better. But only with the big Rank Reset (from Rank 1 to Rank 10 or 11). But since this will not return, it is pointless to talk about it.