The new Vaults are an issue?

BlueHorkew
BlueHorkew Member Posts: 1,081

Really?

Hits while vaulting matching the animation for one time in this game is an issue that needs fixing, but the killer that holds the game hostage for an hour is free with no idea when and if it is going to be fixed.

Priorities...

I don't care if this is not even constructive criticism, i just want to express my frustration

Comments

  • Malkhrim
    Malkhrim Member Posts: 987

    If you want hits to match the animation, change just the animation, don't give survivors a free buff just because of it. Currently windows just propel survivors forward, giving them more distance than they should, and somehow that is more beneficial to male survivors than female ones.

  • BlueHorkew
    BlueHorkew Member Posts: 1,081

    I literally said in the post that i was just expressing my frustrations and not making constructive criticism.

    You don't need to tell what i already know.

  • I_CAME
    I_CAME Member Posts: 1,287

    I don't get why they can't work on a middle ground solution to this. That would be more fair than either extreme.

  • Ivanynakov
    Ivanynakov Member Posts: 235

    Animation needed to be fixed in order to match the gameplay (real vaulting speed). Not the opposite.

    And that is where developers messed up. They are reversing it back so they can fix animation properly I hope.

  • supersonic853
    supersonic853 Member Posts: 5,541

    The only but i thought they really needed to fix was male survivors for some reason could vault further? As shown in another otz video.

    from a "survivors are only skins" perspective thats kinda weird lol. But dwight does it with such grace. He's going all the way.

  • Ivanynakov
    Ivanynakov Member Posts: 235
    edited August 2023

    Give all Killers movement speed boost because animation doesn't match their long legs. Would survivor players complain?

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,214

    Yeah I know. Would also not be a reason to revert the complete feature. (And to be honest, Claudettes vault looks more bugged than Dwights. Maybe the Bug is that she got caught?)

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266

    I would like to see how the hit look on both side.

    The old vault feel so bad as survivor, already 2m ahead and still hit, or even drop vault that already 2m below from the upper floor.

    But the new vault feel alot worse as killer, Im right behind them and the swings dont hit after vault. Its like survivor vacuum 2m away the moment they reach the vault.

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  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,214

    While those two situations looked really bad (btw why has this Demo Dead Hard?), I couldnt stop myself from laughing a bit when you mentioned latency. Because usually the Survivor is ######### over by high Ping Killers, since the Hit Registration is so lenient because BHVR cannot provide Servers to e.g. Russia or other regions.

    So kinda funny to see Killers getting some of their own medicine.

  • BlueHorkew
    BlueHorkew Member Posts: 1,081

    Well, those clips are really bad, honestly they are so bad that i struggle to believe they are real, "Demo with dead hard very funny".

    Just kinda ######### that the latency makes people feel cheated, but survivors constantly have to deal with killer latency almost always favouring killers.

    I dont know if those clips are latency issue. Because i have never seen stuff like that when playing killer.I just stopped swinging so wildly at vaults because i know that those really unfair hits that i used to get for free may not be there anymore.

    I can remember a lot of times playing killer and saying i will take this, because i knew that there was no way that actually hitted the survivor.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,711

    Yeah - It is crazy how things aren't working as intended and they are rolling back the change as, once again, the results are not intended.

    *Er...Ah...I mean...KILLER MAINS ARHHHGHHHHH*

    Shouted in a totally non-biased way, of course!

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167

    I don't see how a killer can hold the match hostage. Survivors have to be extremely hesitant on gens to lose the advantage of progression over regression.

  • DredgeyEdgey
    DredgeyEdgey Member Posts: 1,373

    A taste of our own medicine this "fix" added window vacuume

    Wich is just as bad as pallet vacuume in 2018

  • DredgeyEdgey
    DredgeyEdgey Member Posts: 1,373

    Simple fix remove safe vaults and change tnl if they are gonna keep it "fixed"

  • AmpersandUnderscore
    AmpersandUnderscore Member Posts: 1,752

    ...

    You do know that every killer in the game is at least 10% faster than survivors by default, right?

    This already exists.

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,439

    Regardless of anything in your post, the otz one is completely wrong. There was the drops insta putting you to ground bug for a while and that's not ok. These faults aren't meant to insta drop you to the ground they should be normal over elevated heights.

  • thisislastyearsmodel
    thisislastyearsmodel Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 636

    Actually, I'm moaning because fast vaulting grants invincibility now.

    I've missed hits on survivors vaulting while they're still on my side of the window. My weapon literally goes through them, and then they make even more distance than normal because I'm recovering from my somehow missed hit before I can vault/walk out of the tile.

  • Kaitsja
    Kaitsja Member Posts: 1,833

    I've seen that in two instances so far. One where the survivor was running resilience and one where they weren't but the hit didn't connect. It was really weird to see it.

  • Deathstroke
    Deathstroke Member Posts: 3,508

    Yeah because old ones were bs. I even as killer usually get many hits that looked like they missed. Now I get them just less often. But the new vaulting is bit too good on male survivors.

    But at least one change they should do is to show ping in lobby so survivors can dodge killers with bad ping if they don't want to get hit miles behind.

  • Ivanynakov
    Ivanynakov Member Posts: 235

    I think you didn't get the point. I will repeat my other comment. Animations should match the gameplay (real speed of vaulting) not the opposite. People like you want gameplay to change so animation looks correctly. That was my IRONIC example about matching gameplay to fit 2x longer Killer legs (200% speed to most killers).

    And just to be 100% clear, the reason why developers changed vaulting speed was because animation didn't match.They fixed it by accidently messing up with speed, not animaiton. And they are reverting it back saying that it was unintentional.

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    A hard ping limit of 150ms would take care of a lot of strange hits / actions on both sides. 150ms is the ping limit of most games or esports competitions.

    We play on dedicated servers. The server should know what data came first in and act accordingly. you cant apply the "server favors the shooter rule" of other games on dbd. because survivors are never the "shooter". a more strict ruleset has to be used to make it fair for both partys.

  • RpTheHotrod
    RpTheHotrod Member Posts: 1,886
    edited August 2023

    They sort of do it as a "both types of players get latency priority". Killers get the "favors the shooter" rule, and survivors are favored when it involves interrupts such as grabs or harpoon attaches. Annoying and beneficial for both sides. Attacks getting priority keeps the game playable from a killer's POV, and grab protection helps protect survivors from losing two health states at once.

  • Cryopier
    Cryopier Member Posts: 62

    Imagine thinking you should be able to hit a survivor 12 feet through a window with a 7 inch blade.

  • pizzavessel15
    pizzavessel15 Member Posts: 534

    the fast vaults arent "matching," people are getting invincible half way through the vault and being slung half a meter out. people are getting fast vaults from the dumbest angles and speeds, so they do NOT need this