How would you change MFT?

• Activates after being unhooked
• 7% Haste until healed or you perform a conspicuous action
• Maybe give it a timer, like Off The Record
• Remove the Endurance aspect altogether

I hate the perk both in concept and in practise, but if I put aside my own bias and keep the 3% haste: -

• Overall game mechanic change where Haste effects do not stack, only the strongest effect is used at any one time.
• Give MFT a new animation when active, where the survivor remains stooped, but hand that normally clutches the Survivors chest instead make an action similar to Gabriel in the perk icon.
• Endurance effect reduced to 3/4/5s.

This : -

1. Removes the broken haste stack effects.
2. Allows killers to decide if they want to chase or not if their killer isn't strong in chase and/or on a horrible map to deal with MFT.
3. Makes the endurance on slug saves a much small buffer when going for anti-slug picks up, that the Killer can easily wait out if you don't get to a window or pallet fast. This reduces protection hit effectiveness to a genuine question of are you gonna protect? Or are you gonna run?

I'd also consider buffing Boon: Dark Theory to 3%, because if MFT can have it so easily, why doesn't the perk that has to work harder for and can lose it easier not have it too?

Edit: just realised the anti stack effect wouldn't work, because you have interactions like PWYF, Rapid Brutality, Bloodlust, the Clown Anitidote bottle for both sides, MFT, Hope, any of the Exhaustion perks, Skull Merchant tracking haste, and the Singularity Slipstream, Wraith, etc, etc.

This change cause more problems than it solves...

To mitigate the problem scenarios with MFT, I would propose the following:

• Either remove Haste stacking for survivors in general, or add a stipulation that Made For This specifically cannot stack with other sources of Haste. Either way, you shouldn't be able to chain it with Hope, or even the less blatantly overpowered but still unbalanced combinations.
• Remove the Endurance entirely. People are overstating things to say that the Endurance part is worth a perk slot on its own, but it should be paired with a much, much weaker effect than Haste.
• Buff anti-Exhaustion tools. This isn't just for Made For This, I think it's a good idea in general; part of the reason Exhaustion perks are so obvious, no-brainer picks in every single build that has space for them is because the tools for dealing with them tend to be pretty lacklustre. They shouldn't be overbearing, of course, but they should definitely be more consistent than they are.

That's all it needs. The conditional and ostensibly counterable Haste effect is not inherently unbalanced, it can be implemented in a way that works, so all you need to do is trim down its problem areas.

I would just leave it as is but make the perk start at 1%.

Each time you are unhooked, MFT increases by 1%. Up to 3%

I’m just throwing ideas out there

Disabled during Endgame.

That'd be my main change if they want to keep it a strong perk but get rid of one of the most broken aspects of it

Lot of your idea are just worst perk than some already existing

Dunno but, if you want so much that perks can't stack, all perks have to be rework, not only haste and for survivor

All gen speed of regression have to lost the stackable effect

All speed perks from survivor or killer have to lost the stackable effect

It's that what you want? Or it's only, again, only one side ?

Disabling MFT in endgame fixes this issue

All other survivor haste perks are either exhaustion or suck so hard their haste stacking is irrelevant once mft hope is no longer a thing

The thing is

I love to play F1 Hag, it's so funny to see survivor just, losing their mind to see a ######### hag rocket running in their directions, so I can understand why survivor play MFT wih hope, but again, they need to get in the endgame for earning it

Soma got three powerfull perks, and, MFT make no sense to have the endurance effect

the second point, I see lot of people saying "it reward bad play" again... Lot of killer perks reward bad play, noed is the most know, but, Hux come with another one, Machine learning, but, it's not the main point

The other thing that I don't understand, is when you compare MFT with Dark Theory

How a perk can give a permanant 3% haste effect when you are injuried, when in the other hand, you got only a 2%, in an delimited area, and only if the boon is up

Sometimes, I wonder if the healing nerfs never happen, if this perks would have been so popular, knowing that a lot of perks from killer punish survivor for healing

... I think, simply, if you want to nerf MFT, you have to delete the endurance effect, and using the old logic of hope; the perks is only active for some times before deactivating and you got exhausted

It gonna be more logic, plus, lot of people gonna be less angry

Calm down, it's not your idea that I pointed out, like the first one say about your idea, giving the haste effect when people are not injuried gonna be more harder to get a hit

It's more like people who want to remove the haste effect and nerfing the endurance effect to less than 10 secondes or get a haste effect during some second after unhooking WHO gonna make MFT a worse perks than some existing

If you want that I quote them, here you go:

Buckle up, SoulGard, Borrowed Times, Bloodpact, Gardian and Power of two

And I was just saying about gen regression perks, you can stack them and make them more powerfull, in the same way that gen speed perks, when you combine them, it can make a gen in... 20/30 secondes when you are alone

If now, we decide that survivor can't have perks who can stack, I don't see why killer can, even if it's asymetrical... a moment, you have to calm down

Haste (and for that matter anti-haste) shouldn't even be in the game unless it's for a VERY limited time (ie lithe is okay). It just breaks too many fundamental balances of the game. I'd fix it by completely reworking the perk entirely and remove the haste.

You know what? Why not

"Made for this" "You were born to survive, and raised to adapt." "I didn't come here to be robot food!" — Gabriel Soma

Technically, what it say is the survivor who have this perks make everything for survive, for escaping... So, why not adding a condition

Condition where, the perks only recharge when you work on a gen, because you participate at the escaping with the other (or yourself) or when you help your friend, your teammates like lucky break?

There are a couple ways you can go about it. The question is, should the speed boost be permanent or should it be temporary?

If you want the speed boost to be permanent, i would do the following:

• Remove the endurance effect
• MFT increases your movement speed while injured by 1.5% for each time you have been hooked
• When it is active, you are shown to have a "woosh" effect around you, so the killer knows you have MFT.
• Deactivates in endgame (to prevent hope stacking)

This would make it so it doesn't take effect on the first hook, similar to old deadhard, and extending that first chase far more than it should, if this makes the perk too weak (per data) i'd consider removing the "while injured" requirement.

If you want the speed boost to be temporary, i would do the following:

• Remove the endurance effect
• Remove the exhaustion aspect of the perk
• When injured MFT activates for 60 seconds
• During its time period, you are shown to have a "woosh" effect around you, so the killer knows you have MFT.
• When you are healed, MFT deactivates and keeps its duration
• Being in the terror radius and not chased each second gains 1 second of MFT duration, to a maximum of 60 seconds
• Basically make it work like lucky break.

Two thing

First one, If you read what I say before, I compare haste perk from survivor and killer, and gen speed perk with gen regression perk

I don't compare haste effect with gen regression, I was just saying IF we delete the stackable effect from perks for survivor, we need to do it for killer, it's pretty simple no?

Second, so, if I understand your logic, helping other teammate is not skilled? Like healing, doing gen or trying to survive, is not skilled? And even if it was not what you wanted to say

You take example from scourge hook and Pop, but, Ruin, deadlock, call of brine, overcharge... All these are also gen regression, and in the same way than pop and scourge, in term of popularity and powerness, and for some, you just need to kick, the other, just being a scarecrow or loosing a gen, all regression perks doesn't reward "skill" from the killer and to say that they are not powerful would be to play the ostrich

I take machine learning as example because it's the same "excuse" about MFT : "it reward bad play"

technically, machine learning reward bad play, you loose a gen

And for Food, technically, you have two possibility to regen quicky your token or not losing it, infinte tombstone myers doens't lose tokens, and if you play with game afoot or Nemesis, you have a way to regain quickly new token for play with your food, and probably more technic or combo perks (I think with furtive chase, never try, but I may be wrong here)

And, not all killer can be powerfull with stackable haste, but it exist, it's not well know, actually, but, for my first example, Hag, with her recent buff, who can run at 4.73 m/s with the waterlog shoes, and you take some haste perks like play with your food, game afoot or wathever, and she are just one of the fastest killer in the game, or, IF PEOPLE TRY TO LEARN HER... Skull merchant,she got lot of add-on who boost her speed, great for chase, where she can run at 4.7 m/s and it last 15 secondes after leaving the drone, and it goe's with my second point, her, and a lot of other killer, have add-on who make hindered for some times, the artist, skull merchant, Nemesis, Wesker got one basekit, blight, hag, etc etc

But for the example of skull, she can run at 4.7 m/s when survivor run at 3.8 m/s

I would do something like:

Remove Endurance effect.

After you take a hit (going from healthy to injured) -> If you are not exausted, you gain 3% haste for 40s. Makes you exausted for 60/50/40s.

Make this perk a exaustion perk.

Honestly better than the unconditional 3% speed boost.

And killer mains would still complain

Yeah, better to destroy a perks like that, nobody use it because the other have better effect

Right..

Remove stacking. MFT + Hope shouldn't be a thing. I don't really have an opinion on the endurance aspect except to say it probably didn't need it, I feel like the 3% haste is a good enough perk.

You can delete this Perk with this effect. There would not really be any reason to run it. The end goal should be to have a Perk which is useable, not one of the few dozen Perks which are not even slighly worth to pick.

@Topic:

• Remove Endurance
• Remove Stacking with other Haste-effects (only the biggest Haste-Buff is applied, e.g. in Endgame with MFT and Hope, only Hope is applied and MFT deactivated)
• Small indicator for the Killer that the Survivor they hit has MFT

Optional:

• Makes perma-exhausted (even when healthy) but is not deactivated while exhausted. This would make the Perk not useable with other Exhaustion-Perks.

survivors when eruption: "the idea of preventing people working on gens for a little while is fine, just maybe bump the numbers down somewhat and let us do non repair stuff, it's quite overtuned right now"

killers when made for this: "make it make survivors weaker. make it kill the survivor instantly"