What's wrong with using shack pallet at 5 gens?

Then those teammates were definitely petty for that. You pretty much won them the game but they’re too ungrateful I guess.

Yeah I never really understood it either. You drop the pallet when you need it. If you need it at 5 gens you need it at 5 gens.

Idk where this idea came from but I have heard it said a lot with no explanation given

Not wrong if it means you can make up for it extending chase enough long. In first chase this might be very good thing to do as it's when survivors are at their strongest. But if you go down in 10s after dropping it don't use it leave it to player who can get more value from it.

Normally I try to do 3 window vaults before using it. But if there is other pallet I can use I leave shack pallet up ofcourse. Usually im able to run wesker in shack too baiting him to vault window or vaulting it before he can get me with his power.

I definitely wouldn't use it first chase, or while full health. The value the team can get from looping it multiple times throughout the game is worth more than losing a health state early. Health states are a renewable resource for survivors while strong pallets are not.

your 3 gen chase should've justified the shack pallet drop. though, not just shack pallet, survivors should save pallets and try to not create dead zones so solo teammates won't go there and die because there wasn't a single pallet in sight.

This ^

Jokes aside though, shack pallet can be very strong in mid-to-late game scenarios. Especially when all other pallets have been dropped already. But to throw a game and grieve someone because of that is just childish. Unless you're injured and about to die, I wouldn't personally drop any pallet. But greed them for late-game. That's excluding scenarios against insta-downing killers like Michael/Ghosty etc.

Shack is arguably the strongest structure/loop in the game regardless of the map, so usually you'd want to save it until later in the game.

However, just because it was used early is no reason to throw the entire game. In certain situations you have to use what you can to get away from the killers and they got 3 gens done regardless. Some survivors will find the pettiest of reasons to not save/help you during the match.

I understand your thought process, but you not taking an otherwise preventable hit at 5 gens means that you've already taken steps to solving the problem of someone being on death hook with 1 gen left. They can't be on death hook if the game is over because the killer didn't down anyone until 3 gens popped.

Its often better to drop god pallets early if it means to you prevent Killers from getting an early down, the early game is the most important phase for the Killers so dropping a god pallet early can often lead to a win. You see in comp that survivors have no problems dropping them early in tournaments if it means that Killers get their first hook delayed by even just a bit.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. If it's gonna save your chase, drop it. It's been marked as the heretic action by all the wannabe comp players.

Who cares if shack pallet gets thrown down early - Most maps have equally strong pallets on them aside from shack pallet now. If a player gets chased at shack and get downed because the pallet wasn't there that's on them. Yeah it could be prevented in comms but that's every situation not just shack.

Like certain killers it's probably better to drop it early - Really depends on what killer your facing though.

The biggest threat to survivors are other survivors. I stopped counting the matches were we could have managed a 3 or 4 man escape but someone threw the game and doomed everyone else.

Pallets are there to be used. It doesn´t matter if the pallet gets used to prolong a chase for 1 minute at the start of the match, or at the end of the match. The important thing is, that the rest of the team uses the time and doesn´t waste it.

Literally this.

"Some people just want to watch the fog burn." ~Alfred

Because if as a survivor you are not as hyper efficient as possible you suck (people legit said this in end game chat but more vulgar)

Personally I wont drop shack pallet unless im going down, if it is between taking a hit or dropping the pallet i will always take the hit. Shack is too strong to waste if you can get injured and run to another loop, when later in the match someone on death hook could use it

Ah, yes -- I am familiar with the post-match "I would have saved you, except you broke one of my super secret rules" chat. Maybe I'm weird, but I feel like it's not that hard to keep supporting your team even when they don't play exactly how you want.

Someone posted a 'baby Surv' move of a chased Nea running with a chased injured Meg, and the Nea took the outside of shack forcing the Meg to go inside. The Meg dropped the pallet and the Nea stared from the window and I wanna say had the "hello darkness my old friend" audio blasting over it. The problem was preventing early game pressure by dropping shack when the Nea refused to even bodyblock and help both of them delay the first hook was the best move. Dropping Shack is more often memed to be a bad move than people are willing to admit, but its a fun meme, and it means you aren't taking the game too seriously. Just goofing around is the best way (imo) to enjoy the game.

So don't drop shack unless you are a sweatlord /s.

You need to look at your health states and hook states as a resource you can spend. It might have been better for example to take the hit, speed boost away, and take the loop somewhere else, or use the speed boost to get on the other side of shack, then loop it 3 times THEN drop the pallet, for example.

As for hook states, you look at them as resources you can spend. When nobody has been hooked or injured, the pallet is probably more valuable. Better to "spend" your health state or your hook state resource and save the more powerful one for later. Especially since a dropped shack pallet after gates are open can trap a killer inside of shack and basically give everyone a free escape at that point. Or doing the same to force the killer to break the pallet and break a 3 gen you are slamming nearby.

You'd do the same for example, if you haven't been hooked, and you see a teammate who is on death hook being chased, you should go tank a hit for them, and try to get the killer to chase you instead, by literally throwing yourself at them. Intentionally run to a deadzone, and run to a map corner. Yeah you get hooked, but better that you get hooked, then a teammate get killed.

I mean a "3 gen chase" at the start of a game isn't really a 3 gen chase.