Is there even anything you can do in this situation?
Playing wraith yesterday night, trying out the new sking from pass, just a whatever chase build, my only "slowdown" was jolt, go againts a swf of ripleys, they send me to ormond, pre-drop every single pallet, stick to gens like glue, i got literally 5 hits and no downs (medkits and for the ppl), and of course they all waited the 2 minutes after i had to open the gates and break all doors for bp while the game was muted and talking about another subject with my gf
i am a 1.1k hours, play mostly ghostface, huntress and deathslinger, is there even anything you can do about these kind of players as a m1 killer?
before you asnwer, do realize, after the match has started, you cant really chose another killer with another perks that can easiely deal with that kind fo group, realize that before tipping some room tempeture iq take on the comments
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Yes.
If they play to win, you need to decide what your highest priority is. Do you want to win or just vibe?
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do understand, i am a m1 killer, with mostyl info perks, what am i supposed to do if they pre drop everypallet?
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well, sure i could have put on nurse with 4 slowdowns, slugged and camp the whole match, cant do that after the match has begun tho, my question is, with a m1 killer with no "good" perks, what do you do?
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You play mean.
Camp, tunnel, force Survivors into dead zones. If you want to win against a good team, you've got to play good macro.
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Why are you being hostile? They gave an answer to your question and some advice. I'm sorry you had one bad match but maybe you need to get better instead of running to the forums to ragepost?
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You can try and play a more tactical approach. That can mean tunneling, camping, slugging, 3genning, hit and run. Whatever gives you an edge. I take it this is what @Pulsar meant too. You don't necessarily need the strongest perks or a different killer.
Ormond is a bit rough indeed because there aren't a whole lot of spots that would benefit you for camping (other than the hook near the hut or basement in main building) and the map has quite a few strong pallets and strong loops that connect into each other, so tunneling can also be rough. Playing territorial to get the resources out of the way and slugging can help. Especially with Jolt. But that isn't a guaranteed win either.
It's hard to say what exactly you could do with no footage of the game but it's likely you could have played something different to get better results. There is always room for improvement. The chances to run into a group that is so stacked that you really cannot win no matter what you do are very low.
By the way, it's not a good idea to be condescending towards people, who give you genuinely good advice. Especially not veteran players. I disagree with @Pulsar on a great many things but they know what they're talking about. And they were 100% right about this.
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i was making an actual question, and two ppl commented without reading the post :P just giving bak the same energy
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There’s nothing u can do except hit and run. The maps are designed so that 90% of the loops are completely safe against m1’s.
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Not getting the responses you want to hear doesn't mean people can't read. We're not getting paid to respond to you the way you want.
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they said in the op they couldn't get a single down. you can't camp or tunnel from that point.
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So they don't have the decency to explain that instead of claiming someone is illiterate right away and edit their original post to imply the commentor is "low-IQ"?
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Instantly hostile, got it. Gonna be one of these types of things with someone upset.
You don't need perks to play that way. You don't need perks to create deadzones. You don't need perks to tunnel (although info perks will help you). You don't need perks to play decent macro.
Either winning matters most to you or it doesn't. You shouldn't expect to win against 4 meta gamers when you're playing a weak Killer with off-meta perks. That'd be ridiculous if you could just stomp them. It's possible to compete, but you need to be willing to commit to a fairly unpleasant playstyle.
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Then that is, unfortunately, a skill issue. Is it their fault? Hard to say without seeing gameplay. It could be, it could also be the matchmaker being awful. Realistically though, not getting a down in 2023 DBD is usually on the Killer.
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i mean yeah, but camping or tunnelling wouldn't be the best advice. idk the proper answer here either, play non-m1 killers i guess. with mft still in game m1s can't do much against good survivors especially on certain good maps.
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If pre-dropped pallets is an issue getting downs, wraith has decent solutions through his addons. Also a hit and run using silent clapper and purple All-seeing.
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Do you have Dredge? His Dissolution works great with Wraith. All pallets remain unbroken and once you manage one hit they are in a world of hurt. It is great when it comes to chases.
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What answer you want?
You played as mid-tier killer with information perks. It was your decision, yes?
What do you expect? Just because you did that, you think you will get chill survivors like you?
It was your decision after all and survivors are free to whatever they want to get. If they are trying to win, they can. If this bothers you that much, you also can use your strongest killer with strongest perks and add-ons. Nobody is stopping you.
And when you play chill and face with sweaty survivors, you still can make it comeback. Usually these teams are super altruistic. So focus one of them, get down and then use this down as bait to get some free hits and maybe downs.
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Wraith is really fast, you break all those pre-dropped pallets and then rake in the downs later. Also, don't bring so many information perks, you don't need to know everything. Wraith can just go check, one is plenty.
Furthermore, work on your people skills. You come here frustrated, ask for advice, then lash out. If we're so dumb, how come you're the one complaining about basic gameplay and how to counter it?
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With only five hits MFT wasn't likely a factor in this particular trial, but without seeing footage that's only a guess on my part.
Wraith's cloaked speed usually allows lots of quick & easy first hits, pathing denial, and bodyblocks of pallets and vaults. He is one of the better jugglers of survs when played to his strengths.
And as others have pointed out, several of his add-ons are good for aura reading. This frees up perk slots on him for chase, or slowdown if they prefer.
All of this also leads me more towards skill & experience issues more than what the survs brought or did. Beyond saying that we'd need to see this match to offer more useful advice.
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What your addons and perks apart from jolt OP?
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Hilarious how someone posts asking for advice and the go to responses are camp, tunnel, don’t expect chill matches and don’t play M1 killers.
No wonder the game is in a terrible state.
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What addons were you using? Against any team with half a brain, not running double purple (shadow dance + swift hunt) wraith is basically unplayable. Any other addon is basically meme level
But then again, you were also running info perks, which are kinda useless on wraith...
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Realistically, if you aren't running meta in any form and refuse to play mean; you shouldn't be expecting to win against people who are.
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Realistically, taking the more 'vibe' stance, if you want chill games you just have to accept that some teams will want the win more than you do. That's not a bad thing, and it's bound to happen.
It's perfectly fine to lose a game every now and then simply because you don't feel like sweating like crazy.
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