Nerf wesker

I’ve played wesker a few times and no he does have cool downs and his techs (which I also find unfun to play against) are nearly impossible for me to do without becoming a laughing stock

and on top of that wesker is the most balanced killer in the game he’s literally what nurse and blight should’ve been when they were created

The only thing about Wesker I'd change is his infection going up in chase. He gets rewarded for losing. That's not good game design.

Therefore, I'd make the following changes:

-infection no longer goes up while running or over time

-infection increases while performing actions, e.g. repairing, cleansing, healing etc.

With this changes in mind, he'll keep is slowdown. Survivor will have to take care to cleanse themselves, but Wesker will not be rewarded for playing chases badly and tunneling one survivor out.

To his tech, it's up to the devs if they want to close holes in their code or keep them. it allows more depth to the character and once you learnt them, they're easy to counter. Very similar to Blight's hug tech.

His cooldown seems fine. Wesker mains using Jewel Beetle to trigger the throw cooldown earlier and two tapping survivors. They should adjust the cooldown starting when the survivor hit an obstacles, not when throwing. That's s small thing that could be adjusted imo.

Dude it is 12 seconds, so your feeling of a non existant cooldown does not really matter... It is 6 seconds per charge and gets decreased the more people are infected... What do you consider considerable then if he was able to hit you close after?

I don't really see what you mean there, are you saying he should be slowed down massively after missing his dash? That would basically remove its capability for map traversal...

He get's slowed down rather much, or how much do you think is a good amount?

As for the ignorant part... If you get told the concrete number and still insist on your feeling it not being a cooldown at all, that kind of fits the definition, soooo don't know what to tell you there buddy.

The Wiki don't cost money, and it gives you all the numeric info you need for anything in the game, including Wesker:

Movement Speeds:

• Walking: 4.6 m/s
• Bound: 14 m/s

Bound:

• Power Charge time: 1.5 seconds
• Power Recharge time: 6 seconds per Charge
  • Reduced Power Recharge Time bonus for Infected Survivors: -0.5 seconds per infected Survivor
• Minimum Bound distance: 1 metre
  • Below this threshold, a Bound will not be initiated.
• Chain Bound Window duration: 2 seconds
  • This refers to for how long after a first Bound, a second one can be initiated.
• Bound Survivor-Grab duration: 0.86 seconds

Bound Durations:

• First Bound duration: 0.5 seconds
• Second Bound duration: 1 second
  • This Bound is also referred to as the Chain Bound, since The Mastermind can chain it to the first Bound.

Bound Ranges:

The Mastermind's Bounds do not have a fixed range, only their individual durations and their shared Movement speeds are defined in code.

Due to this and the Bounds having acceleration curves, an exact calculation of their range is not possible without in-depth developer-knowledge, only approximations.

• The first Bound has an approximate range of 7 metres (the actual range is shorter due to acceleration).
• The second Bound has an approximate range of 14 metres (the actual range is shorter due to acceleration).

Bound Camera Modifiers:

• Yaw multiplier: x1
  • Yaw refers to left-right movement of the camera.
• Yaw limit: 140 °
• Pitch multiplier: x1
  • Pitch refers to up-down movement of the camera.

Infection:

• Maximum Infection level: 100 Charges
  • If a Survivor reaches this level, they will enter Critical Infection and receive the Hindered Status Effect.
• Passive Infection gain : 0.8 Charges per second
• Initial Infection level: 20 Charges
  • This refers to the amount of Infection a Survivor receives when they first become infected.
• Infection Incubation threshold: 20 Charges
  • Below this threshold, the Infection is essentially non-existent.
  • The HUD icon and Passive Infection gain only start appearing / taking effect once the threshold is reached.
• Infection Healing multiplier: x1 (base used for Add-ons)
• Infection Removal Interaction duration: 5 seconds
• Infection Removal Killer Instinct duration: 4 seconds
• Infection Penalty when grabbed while already infected: +20 Charges

Cool-downs:

• Bound Cancellation cool-down: 1.5 seconds
• Bound cool-downs:
  • Vaulting an obstacle: 1.5 seconds
  • Slamming into a Breakable Wall or Pallet: 2 seconds
  • Letting the Chain Bound Window elapse: 3 seconds
  • Dropping from a ledge: 3 seconds
  • Completion with or without hitting a Survivor: 3 seconds
  • Completion with throwing a Survivor: 5 seconds

Collision Detection:

This refers to the Collision Boxes used to detect environmental objects or Survivors during a Bound

• Horizontal angle: ±10 °
• Vertical angle: ±20 °
• Size for Environmental-Object Detection: 20 centimetres
• Size for Survivor-Grab Detection: 30 centimetres

Throw:

• Throw duration: 0.6 seconds
• Throw Damage distance: 0.75 metres
  • If a Survivor is thrown into an obstacle within that distance, they receive damage and are immobilised.
• Throw Movement Block duration: 1.9 seconds
  • This refers to how long after being thrown, Survivors are unable to move for.

Hindered Effect:

The value is applied as a multiplier to the Survivor's Movement speed.

• Strength: -8 %

Next time, look at it before posting things like that. And you should start playing killer, even if it is to get knowledge of how the other side play so you can adapt better when going against that killer. As a killer main, that helped me with my survivor plays.

Getting tunneled is not fun independent of the killer. Stop pretending that it's just Weskers doing this. I have had more tunneling Blights with sweaty addons than Weskers.

Still had a lot more fun in the Wesker matches.

The problem here is that you say things like "it seems".. And "Wesker doesn't seem to have a cooldown"

He does. Its been shown to you a dozen times now. How things "seem", how you "feel", and how things "are" are very different things.

He has plentiful cooldowns, you yourself admit you dont know the game that well. That is literally a you problem, wesker is one of the more simple to understand killers in the game (he charges you with 2 lunges). Just try playing him for even a few matches before you comment on a killer and a game you know not that much about.

The problem is that isn't always the case. I can't tell you how many times Wesker has grabbed people through windows/pallets, around corners, and through walls (both as and against, I had a Dwight get hit by my power with lag hits for both hits in a row and he DCed, and I couldn't blame him for not wanting to play when the game isn't working correctly.). When you have a 4-lane as the edge-map Jungle Gym, and a VPN Wesker, you are going to round the corner on your screen, then he is going to teleport you backwards 5m into his loving tentacles, and get thrown into the edge-map wall. The Killer should have only had a wall slam on a second dash more towards the center of the map, but you get a scam hit that throws you into the corner instead, and there is nothing you can do to counter a VPN/mismatched server Killer like that. It even doesn't have to be a 4-lane, it can be certain rotations of any Jungle Gym. This was a particularly bad lag example that just shows how busted his power can be with lag, as only Huntress can reach similar heights.

As far as sound cues, similar to visual heartbeat, I think powers and gens should have an icon when the sound cue is supposed to play, that way Killers can 'hear' worked/passive/regressing gens, and Survivors can 'hear' power windups even when the sounds are bugged. That way everyone can have the proper knowledge they are supposed to. I would extent this to sound cue subtitles for everything like *locker opens* *locker closes* and so on. This would probably disproportionately help Killer, but everyone having accurate information is more important imo.

Being in chase is called normal gameplay. I could just pre-drop 6 palettes in a row to keep a safe chase going - am I winning now, is the killer losing? Or am I causing my team to lose later on?

But, my infection rate should be paused after I get unhooked until I perfom a conspicuous action - Wesker no longer gets rewarded for tunneling and survivors can choose to play it safe or push the objectives.

If the infection no longer increases while running or on its own over time, no survivor would ever get fully infected.

Is it though?

So I guess "Final bound elapsed cooldown" means you used all your charges but did not hit anything So you get slowed down for 3 seconds to 57.5%, which is a lot...

And you have the same under "Chain bound window elapsed cool down", where you have the exact same slowdown, also 3 seconds to 57.5%...

I don't think that is short...

If you outplay a Wesker by predropping pallets, and he fails to zone you properly or to catch you with his ability while you're holding W, it's def on him. My point still stands: Wesker should not be rewarded for his failures.

not to mention that predropping against Wesker doesn't work, bc he can vault over pallets to catch up pretty fast. you're literally forced to loop him and dodge his ability

These downsides remain untouched? maybe increase Hindered back to 20%. It should just go up if you perform working actions.

it's an in-built slowdown. Wesker shouldn't earn a guaranteed down just for landing a single hit. He is already an oppressive chase killer who can get downs very easily and fast. Infections only benefits Weskers who haven't learnt how to use their ability effectively, yet.; in-built crutch.

Show us a clip of you playing him having no cool down