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This is why we need basekit endurance after being picked up from dying state...
This highlight tells it all. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1958750156
It doesn't have to be crazy, just 3-5 seconds would suffice.
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You already have tons of perks to help with that, buckle Up, WGLF, made for this, even one that YOU can equip to use on yourself, soul Guard
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Everyone knows that "just use so-and-so perk" isn't the solution. In fact, I DID run Soul Guard for a while after this, and guess what? I haven't had any Killers slug me like that since, making it a wasted perk slot.
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You need no such thing, not_requested49 is right.
Plus it was the end of the match, what was the huntress supposed to do in that situation, hook you so the team could swarm and you're covered by basekit borrowed time out of the gate?
You can't just have endurance covering your butts all over the place.
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constantly giving survivors base kit perks is far from the solution.
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It wasn't "just in that situation." She'd been slugging me throughout the match. Notice how I had no hook states while the teammates did. Notice how my bleedout timer was already halfway gone when she downed me at the start of that clip. Notice how she didn't go out of her way to slug everyone when she had the chance. She only put in enough effort to make sure I didn't get picked up. After I bled out, she did kill one of the teammates by actually hooking him. She singled me out for the bleedout just to be toxic and nothing more.
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your correct, that type of slugging is not fun when you get hit immediately when being picked up. soulguard is useless right now because slugging is not primary way killer ever choose to kill survivors but if it became threatened to be slugged then I could see Soulguard being base-kit. It is just that weakened a strategy that is chronically under-powered and under-utilized is not in the cards.
I guess we will see if they buff slugging in twin updates or if it will just be ghostface type update where very little changes and no one plays them because slugging.
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Equip so and so perk argument vs make it basekit doesn't work in all cases, in this case you want a strong effect for free for something the devs clearly won't give because... its a strong effect for free on, we don't really need more endurance effects at the moment, we already have 8 endurance effects 2 basekit ones for things killers should do seems overkill
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And hey, the devs went ahead and gave us the anti-facecamp feature rather than telling us to run Reassurance, so why not?
And those who argue that "Survivors don't need basekit everything" are just exaggerating. We have basekit endurance after being unhooked, we have the anti-facecamp mechanic now, and none of those things make us invincible. They can be played around quite easily in fact. They're just meant to give Survivors a fighting chance when they would otherwise have none. Being slug-camped by the Killer just to be insta-downed again after getting picked up, you have no chance. Unless you're lucky enough to have the right perks at the right time, but when does luck exist in DBD?
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Just gonna say hard disagree
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Yeah but basekit endurance? Just imagine you can't do anything when you downed a survivor at the exit gates because one has FTP or you manage to down a survivor with twins and they just get free escape lol
And you can't say disable it in endgame because OP wants a free escape as shown in the video lol
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It's not about the "free escape." It's about not getting slugged and bullied throughout the match. Another thing to notice is how far I was from the exit gate when I was initially downed. She could have hooked me then. She could have hooked me the previous times I was downed. I would've preferred to be tunneled out of the match than for the Killer to do this #########.
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Then that's your own issue
If you were to get your way, survivors are literally safe 100% of the time if they get anywhere downed near the exit gate and someone has FTP and uninjured you're just robbed of a down
If you hate it happening, just run soul Guard, simple
But I would laugh if they did so I almost want them to listen to you
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Why not, you ask? Because I think most of us (obviously, not people with the survivor main mindset) would agree that we got to the point of survivors already having enough second-second chances tools in form of perks and mechanics to say "If you still go down, it's on you". At what point would you say the game does enough heavy lifting for you? When everytime you are downed you get another chance to not suffer the consequences of losing?
And sorry, but what I see in that clip is a failed attempt from your partners to body block the killer and get protection hits, which is the real solution to this problem, only that you all failed to do it. No need for more base mechanics protecting survivors from things that already have gameplay solutions.
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As someone who runs soul guard in every build of mine
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even if the perk rarely gives value that doesn’t mean it should be basekit it could mean that it needs a buff since it does feel like the perk lost it’s value ever since the hex metas died
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I mean slugging can be strong but it is very risky compared to any other tactics(outside of sadako being a terrible killer design).
Yes you were not in control of that situation, but imagine if your teamates all dogpiled you within 3 seconds of each other? You'd be out and what she did would be meaningless.
I think she definitely could have done more and gotten more kills with two people on death hook, but base kit endurance after getting picked up would literally remove slugging from the game and slugging isn't that good right now to begin with.
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Fine, then killers need basekit spirit fury and lightborn because it's not fun being pallet stunned and blinded throught the match
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Slugging definitely isn't good, and she definitely could have gotten more kills, but that wasn't her intention. Her intention was to harass me with the slugging, considering she hooked the teammates whenever she downed them as in normal gameplay, but she just left me slugged throughout the match. That is definitely targeted harassment. In the post-game chat, we wondered why she would do that, and we concluded that she might have a vendetta against Jane. Who knows...
I'd be fine with that, since I rarely get to do blinds or pallet stuns.
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Why did you even bother recovering, when you already knew she wouldn't pick you up but camp you to redown? Just crawl right to the a gate, so she has to make a move.
Sure your situation sucked, but do you realize how your suggestion would suck on the killers side? Mft already forces you to go for the one being picked up, with your suggestion on top that would be a free escape in end game. Ftp+BuckleUp is already nuts in end game, we do not need another of that sort.
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so.... clearly its not a problem if running perks specifically designed to counter it is unnecessary.
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Honestly, if BHVR had just tried a basekit unbreakable with a single use, it probably would have been fine. It would make survivor stronger, but not enough that killer couldn't be improved to compensate. I have no idea why they tried giving survivors map wide Exponential that lasted the entire match. Just having a single use would be enough to discourage the most extreme cases of slugging without giving survivors the ability to pick themselves up throughout the entire match.
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great, that way the killer can be put into even more uncounterable scenarios. but this time, as basekit!
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Damn.. y’all want basekit endurance after EVERYTHING dude.
“This is why we need…” the huntress did nothing wrong. They capitalized off of altruism in the end game.
Put on one of the many perks that would have helped you there. No. More. Basekit.
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Fine. You want basekit endurance for that? Maybe some more basekit stuff for killers as well. You get anti camp anti tunnel and now you want anti slug? Give killers anti gen rush base such as deadlock to stop gen pops. No I don't think a killer should have that it's it's just as ridiculous as all the other base kit crap they have been handing survivors so why not?
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Survivors are getting ridiculous with their requests. BHVR is seriously babying them so much with basekit perks. Heck, survivors are REWARDED for taking damage, now with permanent speed boosts. Game is just getting silly at this point.
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What you have failed to mention is that she had Deerstalker and Nurse's Calling, you had Distortion and a medkit, and everytime she slugged you she went away from you to stop your teammates from healing. Not only that, but the first time she slugged you 2 gens was already done and the second time there was 4. And how you got to the "conclusion" that she was harassing you is by one of your teammates joking by saying "vendetta against janes I guess".
In other words, she was not harassing you, she was slugging you as an strategy to gain time and probably avoid you getting healed without being able to see your aura.
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Why not just ask to play maps without killers. This is either a bad take or just a bate post. I can't figure it out
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That doesn't explain why I was the only person she was slugging. The fact that she ran Deerstalker was yet another reason I came to the conclusion that she targeted me and me alone for the slugging, so that she'd be able to find me no matter where I crawled (because iirc, Distortion doesn't work when you're slugged).
I believe she could have gotten the 4k if she wanted to, but she clearly didn't want to. If I was such a threat with Distortion and medkit, why didn't she just tunnel me out? She could've won easily after that.
So I still believe she wasn't really trying to win.
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You know whats the funny part? Yall still got out. Its never been easier to be survivor than now in this games entire history.
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She wasn't trying to win, but left you to go find your teammates because she saw them healing. Right.
It could be coincidence, after all she didn't do many downs to start with. Maybe she thought it was the right time to slug someone when you got down, and she would have done it to anyone else in that moment. Maybe she noticed that you had Distortion and the medkit and again, thought that the smart thing was slugging you as you would be able to heal be yourself without she being able to see your aura with NC. Whatever the reason, there is no signal there that she was targeting you or that her intention was harassing and being toxic. If it was, she would have stayed by your side until you bleed out the first time she downed you.
So you can believe whatever you want, the facts proves you are wrong. That besides what was already said: Enough basekit perks already.
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