Breakdown is an extremely unhealthy perk

I see this perk often enough, but be aware that the saving survivor doesnt usually enjoy the killer slugging so teamwise I'd suggest you skip over it. It definitely has greater value in a swf for trade situations though.

Yes it kind of is, in the few cases where there is only a single reachable hook and survivors can abuse it. But it happens so rarely it really doesn't matter most of the time.

Breakdown is one of those perks that are weak but can never be buffed to any meaningful degree without the game becoming insufferable. Like Boil Over, Deerhunter, Rancor, Residual Manifest etc.

It can be buffed by increasing the duration of the aura reading, 10 to 15 seconds should make it great.

Also, yeah, hook placement needs some kind of change. Not like, Coldwind Farm two hooks facing each other, but some kind of buff.

I can't remember how many times I've picked somebody up only to be greeted with one hook at main building. The sentence "If that hook gets broken I lose the game". has come out of my mouth so many times it doesn't even sound like words anymore.

Its not about nerfing. I'd argue that blindness as a status effect is also unhealthy, so is something like knockout. Does that mean they are OP? No, it just means that blindness is extremely powerful against solo and useless against SWF, and knockout promotes a ######### unfun playstyle. 2 things can be true at the same time, something can be underpowered, and also unhealthy for the game because it promotes things that are unfun.

Yes, finally someone realized how powerful Breakdown especially used against scourge hooks

yeah, the hook shouldn't respawn at all

I've experienced it. One of the worst matches I ever had.

What did knockout do to you!?

I enjoy this with Skull Merchant.

So let me get this completely straight

We currently have Made For This, a perk that gives you 3% haste (and mathematically 20% longer chases on average) with zero downsides, activation requirements, or duration, which also stacks with other Haste effects and Resilience, We also currently have Boil Over, a perk that basically makes you unhookable on certain maps depending on where you go down, and synergises with Breakout to make you almost impossible to hook wherever you go down

But rather then talking about those two perks, you "complain" about Breakdown, a perk that almost nobody uses, and doesn't really affect the state of the game that much without a lot of setup in the form of offerings and sabotaging other hooks

Do I have that correct or am I missing something?

I think you have to go into a match attempting sabo plays to really understand how favorable hooks currently are for Killer. You can sabo 2 hooks and take a protection hit against a Killer with 0 carry perks, and the Survivor still gets hooked on most maps.

The only time sabos/broken hooks make a difference is corners, but even now they have updated most maps to have 2 corner hooks (slightly off in each direction) instead of 1 more towards the corner. That basically means if you keep hooking people in corners, that is a lack of Killer macro skill unless they appeared to always comp corner in the exact same corner from the start. Now I haven't seen an entire team intentionally comp corner in the same corner for every down, and that includes my SWF matches, so it really isn't the problem it is being made out to be.

Hmm. I don’t think I’ve seen survivors calling for senseless perk nerfs; if they do, those threads don’t get traction because this forum is notoriously killer-sided. I do however see killers complain about not only mediocre survivor perks, but terrible survivor perks by demanding they need nerfs—ergo this thread. Like the OP is literally complaining about Breakdown—a super rare perk that does next to nothing. I believe I have seen Breakdown maybe three times in over 900 hours of playing. And in every instance, it did not prevent the killer from hooking the survivor. Clairvoyance and Left Behind are better value. So yes I can see killers complaining about them.

But that's more of a map problem and less of a perk problem.

BTW... Why do hooks still get destroyed after a survivor is killed on them?

It only serves exploiters at this point.

Jesus Christ. I'm criticizing this trend of jumping on literally anything that poses the smallest obstacle in game and immediately calling for nerfs.

I'm not gonna try to say that *break down* of all things is some game winning, S tier perk. It isn't. And like a lot of niche perks, it can come in clutch at times.

I got value out of soul guard once too, and that doesn't mean it's immediately grounds for being nerfed into oblivion.

I never said 'all killers', I'm specifically targeting the group that tends to post in reaction to one, singular event that they blame for something frustrating in game, not necessarily even a loss, and have zero introspection to think that maybe, just maybe they could've done something on their end about it. In this case, it's not even like break down continues to show you a hook aura here. OP likely just wasn't paying attention, and got bit for it, then posted here. Zero consideration of whether they did anything wrong, and this person in particular usually has a massive ego that only reinforces that assessment.

I'm kinda done talking to you too, since you've done nothing but try to put words in my mouth since you first responded.

Doesn't work if you're getting slugged or caged.

A sabo perk that requires you to be hooked and rescued to take effect.

Sure, so OP.