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Lobby dodge rates from last 20 games.
I see a lot of people on here claiming they are constantly dodged or sitting in lobby for 10-15 minutes because the killers keeps dodging their P100 characters. I thought this was a bit over exaggerated so I kept a log of my last 20 games from yesterday with the hidden prestige test being over. Here are my results.
MORNING / AFTERNOON *SWF WITH 1 P100*
Game 1 - no dodge. P4 Oni (2 p100)
Game 2 - 1 dodge, p1 knight (2 p100)
Game 3 - 1 dodge p9 Freddy (2 p100)
Game 4 - no dodge p17 wraith (3 p100)
Game 5 - no dodge p7 wesker (3 p100)
Game 6 - no dodge p21wesker(3 p100 and a 75)
Game 7 - no dodge p3 knight (2 p100)
Game 8 - no dodge p54 oni (2 p100)
Game 9 - no dodge p9 billy (2 p100)
Game 10 - no dodge p5 wesker (2 p100)
*NIGHT TIME GAMES - SOLO FOR A BIT*
Game 11 - no dodge p75 myers (1 p100)
Game 12 - no dodge p3 myers (1 p100 & 91)
Game 13 - no dodge p10 myers (1 p100)
*BACK INTO SWF*
Game 14 - no dodge p15 trapper (2 p100)
Game 15 - no dodge p4 spirit (2 p100)
SWITCHING FROM LOW P TO P100 (halfway through lobby timer)
Game 16 - no dodge p2 knight (2 p100)
Game 17 - 1 dodge p2 knight (2 p100)
Game 18 - no dodge p5 wesker (3 p100)
Game 19 - 1 dodge p10 huntress (2 p100)
Game 20 - no dodge p37 wesker (2 p100)
I was dodged a total of 4 times over a span of 20 games straight, never more than once. I never sat in lobby longer than 1.5 - 2 minutes. I’m NA East, and assume my MMR is pretty high due to escape rate.
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This is the kind of dedication we need.
The only thing that might skewer this numbers could be killers, who can't see Prestige numbers, but I think with the last patch they ended this test and now everyone is back to seeing prestiges, am I right?
Awesome work, mate!
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I live in Western Europe. And ever since they made prestiges visible again (yesterday) I have seen a lot more dodging from killer or teammates (when not playing a high prestige character).
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Can confirm the test is over! Everybody can see prestige again. Thanks for the feedback.
That’s why I did this. I wanted to see what kind of factors play into it. But I do not believe that people are being dodged for 10-15 minutes straight.
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I have never nor have seen anyone being dodged for that long. Maybe if you're a TTV with obvious premade names and 4 toolboxes. But otherwise, highly unlikely.
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I suspect most dodgers felt they where being filled into a game they didnt belong in.
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I got dodged 3 times in a row. So, now I'm entering the lobby as a P3 and swapping to my p100 at the last second. I have only had one Survivor and one killer ditch the game during the loading screen so far.
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My gut feeling is the amount of dodging that happens is dependent on region and MMR. I have no idea how to track that effectively.
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Yea I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. But these are my results personally, and I don’t think dodging is nearly as big an issue as people on here make it out to be.
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It is for me. This is just my current solution to the problem for myself. I'll get a game one way or another.
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In my experience, lobby dodging happen often enough to notice them but it never really takes 10 minutes to start a trial unless I'm playing really late at night. Even then the longest I personally have waited was probably around 5 or 6 minutes tops.. Exaggerations attempt to highlight the key points of an argument but still have some truth to them.
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Do you have anon mode on? Because I do and I see lobby dodges quite a bit.
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I do not have anon mode on.
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I only do as killer which nobody knows of course until the end.
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As Killer I typically take it as a challenge, but I do admit I lobby dodge when they have recent VAC bans on record, or other signs of a probability cheater.
As Survivor though, I'm a lot more picky with my soloq teammates. Nothing frustrates me more than playing with immersed gamers, to the point they never take chase, never pump gens (within 15s of being within TR), and never attempt unhooks. I'm trying to have fun playing a game, not tear my own hair out from other people's incompetence.
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See and I think this is an important aspect. Some of these people think dodging is “ohhh scary, a p100, lemme go next”. Nobody cares about your p100. Everybody has high prestige characters now.
I think dodging has many more aspects to it, like the ones you just mentioned.
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how is it not hard to believe that you can get dodged for more than 10-15 minutes, when sometimes the average survivor queue time is 10-15 minutes all it takes is getting dodged once from 8-10pm est. The other night I spent almost 2 million blood points in the lobby waiting.
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You’re telling me, excluding the time you WAIT to get into a lobby, you sit in the actually game lobby for 10-15 minutes getting dodged over and over?
I’m not talking about matchmaking time.
And no, I don’t believe it. Refer to my results.
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So this small sample size of yours convinced you that lobby dodging is a rare, far flung thing..? Is this like some American form of a persuasive argument?
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There are only two types I lobby-dodge: TTVs, and teams who do this. The loadout should lock at the last 10 seconds, not 5.
Funnily, in my recent experiences, I've been seeing survivors with high prestige do last-second swaps to lower prestige survivors. Not sure why. Otherwise, things have been normal. I feel like the disabled prestige test was just a waste of time.
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I had a 39 minute wait once. That was my record as a soloQ Survivor. That was due to both killers dodging as well as Survivors who got tired of waiting. But, like I told the thread earlier, I just fake everyone out now with a P3 or P4 and swap to P100 around the 7 second mark.
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You say you don't believe people who say otherwise but why should anyone believe you? Your "experiment" doesn't nullify other people's experience as a P100 and the lobby-dodging or harassment they have to deal with.
I can just come up with something like this too:
"Guys, I see a lot of people on here claiming they never go against The Twins. I thought this was a bit over exaggerated so I kept a log of my last 10 games from yesterday. Here are my results:
Game 1 - was Twins. Game 2 - was Twins. Game 3 - was Twins. Game 4 - was Twins. Game 5 - was Twins. Game 6 - was Twins. Game 7 - was Twins. Game 8 - was Twins. Game 9 - was Twins. Game 10 - was Twins.
This is proof Twins are very popular. Now anyone who says otherwise is wrong and I don't believe them!"
I always saw you being against hiding prestige on the Forum under any discussion relating to it. Who knows you didn't just make this up or if it's a biased experiment?
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I've had this happen as well, but my highest Surv (Zarina) is only P25(?).* At least once a week I've had one of those rotating lobbies, where the Killer backs out, then 1 or 2 Survs back out, then a Surv pops in, then Killer back in, then the Killer leaves because only 3 Survs, then as the Killer leaves the 4th Surv pops in, then the oldest Surv other than me leaves, then the Killer pops in and insta leaves because 3, then......... and so on. Like I said though, only about once a week for me. I think they might have negativity bias that the weekly occurrence is instead a daily occurrence, or something like that.
*(I tend to only spend BP on Killers for P9 [for charms], then add-ons, but only sink my BP into 1 Survivor, so only Xeno isn't P9 at this point, then Survivors P9 is up next. The problem is I have about 5 Killers I really like playing so I have them between P10-25, but I digress.)
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No, it’s a small log showing data that suggests dodging because of being p100 is not really an issue in my region and mmr. Not sure why you feel the need to bring up where I’m from?
I don’t care if you believe me or not. I’m telling you these are the exact reportings from my games yesterday. Whether you believe it or not, doesn’t matter to me. You’re a stranger on a DBD forum.
I think people exaggerate on here. A lot. I took the time to collect data that supports MY experience and MY belief, that being dodged for being p100 doesn’t happen much, and for my region and mmr, that is evident. Even with full SWF of p100’s, don’t see it.
If you’re experiencing something different, feel free to create a product to debate with.
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Ok then. Which survivor is your P100 btw?
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I have a p100 Nea.
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Your experience has been quite different from me but that is to be expected thanks to mmr and region, I suspect the biggest tell of whether or not lobby dodging as a whole has been a huge problem will come down to what BHVR said happened during the prestige test. If they say it isn't worth disabling than clearly the minority was vocal, if they say it had a massive impact and will disable till endgame than we will know it was a huge problem.
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Yea I’m very interested to see what their findings were. I hope we receive a breakdown of mmr / regional findings. I think that probably plays the biggest role.
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You brought where you’re from up first. You said NA which I think means North America? I think lobby dodging happens in every region but many people who complain about it are from North America, just like you. 🤷🏽♀️
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The reason I brought up where I’m located is MUCH different from the reason you did, and you know that.
I’m not complaining about lobby dodging? I hardly get dodged lol.
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I watch this streamer called Bryan_S sometimes who is a survivor main with 13,5k hours with a public profile and multipule p100s.
He plays in a swf here and there with others who have p100s and alot of hours. Its not strange when he swfs to have 2/3 p100s in his swf.
He plays in US East also and he rarely gets dodges when he plays like that.
To me the people saying they get dodged for 10-15 minutes cause they are p100 or play in a swf with friends who are p100 are like people saying they play vs a legit comp SWF as killer every game and the game is unwinnable as killer.
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I'm also very interested in what the results are, and I'm curious if it was completely random or what.
But I'm thinking they'll do another test round first, expanding on the number of players, maybe to see a larger sample size. Just a guess though.
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I can gladly take a 10 min video of me getting dodged. It absolutely happens. Not all the time but it happens.
I've nothing to gain from lying. Meh I just watch TV or workout while I wait lol.
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As more and more folk hit P100, there will inevitably be less dodging as there will be no point. And then more people will realize that alot of P100s are actually quite average players and therefore they'll stop being scared of them.
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I too don't understand all the lobby dodging talk or the value some people put into prestige levels. Because someone dumps all their points into one character doesn't make them a god.
If bhvr decides to remove lobby prestige, we will just go back to players wanting items hidden or names hidden or whatever else has been blamed for dodging over these many years.
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It's over exaggerated indeed. I don't have any P100 survivor, but I watch streamers who have P100s and they are mostly dodged two times in a row and rarely, extending the waiting time 2 minutes at most.
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I kind of understand a Trapper or a Hag dodging a full P100 lobby.
It wouldn't give an interesting match for any side anyway.
For better killers, it should be an interesting challenge though.
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I never read that someone claimed to be dodged for 15-20 minutes. And IMO this does not really have much to do with Prestige. Removing Prestiges from the Lobby is a step in the right direction, but it would actually make more sense to remove the profiles completely from the Lobby.
Because I think hours matter way more than Prestige-Levels. Since Prestige just means that they put a lot of points in one character. In theory you can have a P100-Character without ever playing that character or even this role. And meanwhile, the same person who plays their P100 Dwight plays the P2 Adam, does not mean that the P2 Adam is a weaker Survivor.
And I get dodged quite a bit since I have my profile open. Funnily enough even from players who have 5k more hours than me.
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I admit I dodge quite often if I see multiple high prestiges because in my experience that almost always results in a miserable game for me. If they remove seeing prestige in the lobby I'd understand, and instead I'd spend a bit of time looking up how many hours they have and if they're SWFing. Multiple TTVs is also a good candidate to dodge too.
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I‘m Killer Main and i only Dodge Lobbys for one reason. If everyone in the Lobby Shows a High Ping. It‘s Not fun for me, Not fun for the Survivors, so i Dodge.
P100? Thousands of Hours? Who cares, i would have to Dodge dozens of Lobbys to get Players within my Range of Hours if that would bother me.
Also the amount of P100 who Play worse than P10-20 for example is quite high. Prestige means nothing regarding Skill.
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I am playing on European Servers and depending on the time, I am getting dodged more often or less. I can even link a german streamer who dodged over 5 lobbies in a row for reasons like "They look sweaty" or "They have too much hours" etc. even though he has over 10k hours in the game (Not to shame him, but simply to show that people are not being dramatic when they say that the dodging experience is there).
The most times I got dodged in a row was maybe 3 to 5 times but even then I was waiting for maybe 5 minutes (including the regular lobby search time). So yeah, imo it's fine right now. And honestly I want to show my prestige level simply because I find it pretty. That's lowkey all.
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I haven't waited more than 5 minutes in a survivor lobby since...2021? When was the SBMM testing going on? A long while either way.
Do my P100 survs get dodged? sure, sometimes, but not so much it's an issue.
Not to mention almost everyone has at least one P100 character these days; it doesn't carry the weight it did months ago, and it really didn't mean much then. I just got my prestige visibility back, but almost all of my lobbies have at least 1-2 P100s in it.
As for me, I'll only dodge full TTV lobbies, and even then not always. Not because I think they are good, but because there is, in my experience, a positive correlation between the number of TTVs in a single lobby and the amount of dumbass meme-y hijinks. I just want to play a match, not be part of shenanigans for someone's audience.
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Yeah, lots of P100s are total casuals, or just bad. At this point, all you have to have done to have a P100 character is to played a moderate amount and had a main.
Some of the very worst players I've seen recently have been P100.
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I will gladly eat my words if that’s the case! What region are you?
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Overused, overwhelmed, over it.
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Whilst one individual's experience alone cannot prove nor disprove that some people are exaggerating, it's at least good to know someone is bringing some evidence to the table that some killers don't dodge because of a P100 survivor. It's better than someone raging away with no evidence.
I do strongly believe this forum has many who exaggerate. Some don't, but often when it does it comes out of a sense of frustration and rage, inflating the experience. Negative memories often are much stronger than positive ones and 2 bad trials can suddenly feel like 20. So it's understandable, albeit some do this just because they want to manipulate people into thinking something is widespread.
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