November Dev Update!

Omggggg I can't wait

i just dont get it. Its basicly another way to make money. You got skins, ranks, prestiges, charms like how much more do you need to show the world what kind of state your character is in? So pointless

Dead zones is a mistake, just spread the gens. Killers with no map control will still have no map control. So its pointless. Main buildingg should be the heart of the map, in other words, it shouold have the most action. rework it. Big maps are needed so killers with map control have a different playstyle and survivors have a better time overall

Pretty good update IMO. The map changes are sorely needed.

Agreed, I rarely used it to begin with but now? never. With everything else this is gonna be a miserable patch for survivors.

Not every patch needs to give survivors stuff.

Hence why the perk changes to "Shift the meta" aren't actually going to do anything because the fundamental game has remained the same. Without tons of gen defense, gens go too fast for any killer that isn't nurse to deal with, thus everyone just stacks the best 3-4 gen defense perks and calls it a day. Similarly, on the survivor side, the goal is to rush gens as fast as possible while maximizing the amount of time it takes the killer do things. Thus survivors will generally take 3-4 chase oriented perks or 3-4 perks that allow them to rush gens or a combination of both. Hoping that they can run a killer for the first chase while the other 3 survivors finish up 3 gens and thus the snowball one way or the other begins.

Both sides basically build around snowballing as hard as possible leading to the most matches being relatively boring. The only thing that is going to shake up the meta is to completely change the fundamental game such that these strategies are less effective or handled differently.

I.E. something like, perk classes, where instead of stack 4 gen slowdown perks, for example, you can only take 1. Then rebalance the game around the perks within these classes being relatively balanced with each other. So killers would have say:

• 1 Gen defense perk slot (I.E. corrupt/ruin/pop)
• 1 information perk slot (I.E. lethal/bbq/uw)
• 1 attack based perk slot (I.E. stbfl/coup)
• 1 status effect based perk slot (I.E. pwyf/sloppy)

The problem there is there are many perks that do multiple things so that would need to be changed. But in general this is the type of thing that would actually change the meta. Or maybe like an "uber" 5th perk slot and they make a set of new perks that fundamentally change the game significantly for both sides and each side can take one of these "uber" perks.

I don't actually know honestly, but the point is that in order to actually change the meta, fundamental changes need to happen rather than just individual perk changes.

Or bodyblockers off hook. Bodyblock to protect rescuer, then speed off with the haste.

Ironically in my matches the bots are usually better players than the person who actually dc’d hahaha

Some people like that kind of thing, generally though i'm with you, i don't even buy skins or anything really, just characters and the rift (which i only ever bought the first rift)

Yes. That still counts as being made weaker twice. People act like the perk has been untouched since the PTB, which is false. BHVR could have easily said UW was working as intended, and kept the perk the same as it was in the PTB, but they made the choice to weaken it twice instead.

You realize the game is balanced around a full chase lasting around 40 seconds making the game a 2k/2e, right? So saying like: "he'll down people in 30 seconds!" is pretty much around where they want to be. Also, you can't complain about changes like this until we get a chance to test them.

And once again BHVR proves us right when we meme about the devs not understanding their own game.

The player cards are nice I guess.

Despite the fact that i think UW is a terrible perk (yeah you heard me, terrible) that stands to reason that because of that MFT should be dealt with first right? It took them 6 months to do something about MFT and UW hasn't even been out for 3. So even if it was super OP like people claim, it's still in the same realm as MFT in terms of changes.

In regards to it being bad, Lethal pursuer is the best tracking perk in the game, and combined with BBQ or other aura reading is far far better than UW will ever be. UW already has a MASSIVE cooldown of 60 seconds. You use it, then it stays active for 30 seconds, getting you into a chase, but the 30 second cooldown doesn't start until after the first 30 seconds are up. Meaning you get 1 minute between uses. Whereas lethal gets you into the first chase within 10-15 seconds of the match starting, and BBQ gives you constant reading every time you hook someone, whereas UW requires you to go out of your way to find a locker, and then on top of that isn't guaranteed to be up after a hook, and on top of that screams are significantly worse than plain aura reading.

This isn't an us vs them mentality. We shouldn't "buff survivors" to compensate for them nerfing a map that is CLEARLY survivor sided. Stop thinking like this, its toxic, and isn't conducive to making the game actually better.