Playing fair/nice VS playing seriously (tunnel/camp)

I'd encourage you not to excessively tunnel and camp, just because I find it boring and less rewarding to play, and it's a little overly mean. However ultimately you can play how you want, and anyone who complains at you needs to accept its part of the rules. Enjoy the taste of their tears!

If you play less try hard however, do what you need to for your own mental dude, don't give trolls power.

I recall struggling on Singularity when I was trying to learn him, I was having a rough time on Garden of Joy and the POD height limit, the Survivors completed the final gen and I was oretty badly smoked. They were tea bagging me and flashlight clicking me from upstairs. I calmly walked to the gate and opened the door. Needless to say they wouldn't leave and started to try and keep teabagging me and blinding me, so I started ignoring them and playing with shooting my pods about making connect the dots pictures. They kept trying to walk into my view and mess with me, but I stepped aside each time and carried on with my own little game. In the end they got way more frustrated than I did.

"Never let em see you sweat" 🤘

Maybe because u tunneled and camped, they were dead and went next without waiting until u finish the game? Maybe they were not there to say something in end game chat?

Idk about others... but everytime i am tunneled and i am the first one out of the match, I don't stay until the game is over for everyone. I just go next. I don't want to spend time watching what my random teammates are doing and I don't feel the need to say something about the way u played. If u want to play dirty or if u want to play fair, this is up to u. 😉

When I take on the killer role, the playstyle comes down to whom I'm facing.

If the survivors are struggling or victims of matchmaking, I tend to be more empathetic. For example, making sure all survivors have been hooked at least once before going for second hook or even just messing about. A stronger team will make me more aggressive and the end game period is no holds barred. A dickish team gets dickish plays.

Whatever happens, don't tarnish all because of a few and play the way you want to. Just make sure it's challenging in some respect, otherwise it will feel boring and unsatisfying.

No killer would appreciate a survivor who doesn't use a flashlight.

Same. My only issue is, if someone goes out of their way to be a jerk. Like holding the game hostage with their friends (why is that still a thing, BHVR?). Or they leave a bunch of slurs under my steam profile.

Teabagging in end game is just a display that someone is miserable. If they weren't, they wouldn't care enough to wait there and rub it in. Same as killers smacking someone on hook. With the exception of that Yui that cleansed my Huntress' Lullaby yesterday. She had it coming.

I'm sure everyone on this forum can cherry pick two matches to 'illustrate' something like 'why bother being nice'. Given that regulars on the forum probably play more DBD on average than the rest of the player base, then they could probably cherry pick a dozen or more games while blithely ignoring all of the other games that fly in the face of whatever assumption/assertion they're attempting to prove, if so motivated.

However, it seems to me that what posts like this are really saying is "why I let other people's actions dictate my behavior and why the rest of you should be okay with that". Which, of course, naturally invites the reverse.

To use your specific example of the survivors you did tunnel, consider in end game chat their message to you being more in the line "Because you tunneled us, we're going strict meta/genrushing on the next Killer (and every Killer after that) and do everything we can to dunk on them because of you."

If you're response to that is something along the lines of "well, I don't think it's fair at all that they'd do that to someone else. I'm the one who did that to them, not these other people", then - well - you have your overall answer to the question which is 'taking out your frustrations on unrelated people isn't a great thing to do no matter how you spin it'.

If you think that response from the survs would have been perfectly fine, then I don't understand why you're asking the question to begin with. For all you know, the survivors who tbagged you with a 0K had a hard tunneling Killer the match before who treated them like dirt in the previous game. This type of thing would already be acceptable for you.

To be clear, I don't think tunneling is bad behavior. It's in the game, for better or worse, and isn't inherently a sign of 'bad' conduct on the part of the player. You can play as you like and play as hard as you want, but don't try to justify it or excuse treating other people poorly because someone did something to you.

are you in the midwest of america

I don't tunnel or camp unless I get teabagged at a pallet. In those cases, I normally take out the teabagger and let the others farm.

Occasionally, but rarely, a group that escapes will teabag at the gates or talk trash in chat. However, if they mean it maliciously (the teabags at gates which occasionally the survivor doesn't mean maliciously; trash talk in chat is always malicious) and they're not bright enough to figure out that I deliberately spread hooks around before killing someone, they're not bright enough for me to pay any attention to.

I don't know if that helps you or not. Personally, I feel if they're not good enough at the game to see when somebody is trying to make the match last longer or they're terrible enough people they want their opponents to feel bad they don't warrant any attention.

If you do want to tunnel and camp, though, do it. I don't mind that as survivor because if my team won't bodyblock or hook trade we don't deserve to win.

The play style is no more inherently self detrimental than tunneling is inherently bad conduct.

If playing nice is a mental drain for someone then I recommend they don't do it or turn off the game for a bit. Though I am skeptical that being nice is mental drain at all. However, I might might not understand what you mean.

"Many people" is far to general a term and you can say exactly the same thing about Killer players complaining about survivors. Regardless, neither Killer nor Survivor players are a hive mind.

As for making someone feel appreciated, unless you're talking about more than a gg at ECG, I already see that fairly frequently. Yes, some people are rude in ECG and they shouldn't be, but it silly to hold everyone you might face in a online game accountable for the actions of others.

Survivors have a let's bully the killer mindset in general because it's funny. They're constantly have this group mentality logic behind the scenes and is circle jerking each other on everything the killer did wrong(What they personality think anyway).

Go play random discord survivors and you'll see what I mean. Not that I'm saying every survivor is like this but I think most just brings out the inner toxicity when they're group together.

I dunno how do you treat the game and other people, but I do receive a lot of compliments or overall a positive feedback from the survivors if I don't tunnel or camp.. And even if I do tunnel because I feel hopeless, I do apologize and I'm not being called out for it afterwards.

People just wanna play the game in their free time, they're really not looking for competition in most cases..

If I get tunneled or camped to death, I do usually leave the match ASAP, unless the match is ending anyway due to me being the last survivor in the match. I don't remind the killer or try to discourage the killer from playing that way.. I just move on. I don't wanna argue or get involved in their business, that being the way they play the game.

I do very rarely receive insults or survivors teabagging me.. Or I do forget it entirely, because what is to me that they're repeatedly pressing the crouch key? Am I supposed to feel.. Hurt, offended? Nah, this is just a game, and due to the limited survivors' gestures, there are so many assumptions as to what could've they meant with that that I'd be here until tomorrow without a doubt, perhaps for even longer..

Teabagging can mean apologizing, compliments, (...), and it's up to you how do you wish to perceive it. If it hurts you, that's onto you.

That being said, I don't go to the exit once they open the gates. If they wish to wait for me there, they're free to do so, but I shall be browsing some discussions or chatting with friends in the meantime. They have already won at that point, so until there's a perk allowing me to block the exit for at least ~5 seconds after dealing a hit, I'm not gonna bother.

I never said it bothered me or anything like that. That's just the reality of the situation.

Regardless that doesn't change what people are doing. Thick skin or not, you're not going to keep being nice to people just for them to spit in your face.

Thick skin =/= continue to be "nice" to people who treat you like trash. It's not getting upset or offended, but that doesn't mean you don't respond or change your future behavior.

But if you take that stance then survivors should also get "thick skin" and stop complaining about killers not playing for their fun.

I still play "nice" but it has nothing to do with how people see me. I just have more fun personally playing a more mobile and spread out playstyle. I really don't care if the survivors like it or not. It just happens to align with what they say they enjoy. However, that does give me perspective/experience on how they respond and act under those circumstances. Which is what I shared earlier.

Play "nice" and they BM you, play mean and they get upset. Not all the time obviously, but frequently. At least in my experience.

My experience exactly is the same, i havent played killer much for a long time, but i had to get naughty bear. I made a build with Rancor in focus and far from a strong build, i just wanted to have 1 mori. we were send to RPD.

I didnt sweat i just wanted the 1 mori, and i got it.

Now survivors split up in 2 groups standing at each exit gate and tbagging. After pushing out both groups, they demeaned me in the endgame chat, with my "strong perks" (wich they really was not) and my prestige level of 6, that according to them was a lot.

After that a made a good build and started playing relentless, ending the game before the last gen popped... Now the survivors were a lot more humble, so im done showing mercy and playing for fun.

From now on, if im playing killer (its still rare that i do that) but i will tunnel the first survivor out of the game asap, to apply preasure. And everyone with a flashlight goes first. <3

Show no mercy to your opponents.you should not care for their opinion. Their fun is none of your bussiness (unless they are really cutie cutie 💀).

But it is the same way for survivors, isn't it? Your chances of survival are a lot higher with an swf stacking meta perks, strong items and map offerings. And while I do think that teabagging is a dick move, it can be used to bait a killer to take a bad chase.

I am a rather chill survivor, but it doesn't seem like Killers treat me differently and in my experience bringing weaker stuff can raise your chance of being tunneld out, so in this case being "nice" is detrimental for survivors aswell.

I think playing "nice" in dbd is something that you have to do for yourself, expecting the other side to acknowledge it in any way will only lead to dissapointment.