Where is the locker map consistency? Help dredge out
There are many maps where there are few lockers and not evenly spread out. With a killer that has a power that is all about lockers, I'm surprised to see still how bad the locker consistency is across all maps.
I like dredge, I would love to play him more. But it seems to be more about what map you get with him rather than your skill, with maps lacking in lockers or locker spread, it's almost impossible to do well as him. I either just have to deal with not doing well, hope rng is on my side, or I have to bring a map offering.
Please revisit maps and make sure there is a decent amount of lockers and that they are evenly spread throughout the map.
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The worst offenders I find are Swamp, Coldwind, and then for some reason Lerys can spawn with one end of the map entirely devoid of lockers. Hawkins may be in a similar boat.
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Locker passes should only happen if the killer is specifically Dredge, Huntress, or Trickster.
We don’t need to buff survivors against every other killer in the game, by forcing all killers to deal with more reliable lockers.
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Yeah it is a pain.
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Yeah I just care more about it for killers, not so much survivors, they're fine.
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If a locker pass is done, and lockers are made more reliable for every single game, then you’re buffing survivors overall, because the majority of the games aren’t with the three killers that want reliable lockers.
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There's no reason why locker placement shouldn't be comparable between maps though.
Why is Swamp so short of lockers? It's already relatively killer sided outside of Dredge anyway, it wouldn't hurt to add a couple more lockers in strategic locations.
Even on Coldwind which isn't killer sided, as long as the extra lockers aren't added to existing strong loops, then they're not really buffing survivors.
Lockers I find are generally not used much by survivors anyway. Outside of Head On or Flashbang, they can be as much of a risk as a benefit. So place them outside of loops to avoid buffing Head On, and there's no reason why lockers shouldn't be equally available for the likes of Flashbang/Inner Healing.
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It would be very annoying if players had to remember specific locker locations as/against certain killers that don’t appear when playing as/against others. They have already added more lockers to some maps around the time Dredge released and it wasn’t a big deal for other killers. I highly doubt it would be a big deal if it was done on other maps as well.
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Survivors that like to excessively hide, want lockers to always be available, so they can use them to dodge killer tracking perks. They also want reliable lockers to easy mode hide from the killer, because some uninjured survivors are extremely difficult to hear in lockers, even if the killer is right next to the locker, and there isn’t any chase music.
And yes, lockers being more reliable is a buff for survivors, even if they aren’t in a chase. Excessively hiding survivors is a major game problem, and we don’t need to make it any worse than it currently is.
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But why should lockers be more reliable, for survivors or Dredge/Huntress/Trickster, on a map like Midwich or MacMillan, but not for Swamp?
Why the imbalance between locker placement on these maps, for either side?
Are there too many lockers on MacMillan? Is that what you're saying? Is a map that's good for Dredge an indication that it's also too survivor-sided due to having more lockers than necessary?
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I’m saying that a locker pass would make every part of every map contain lockers, and that would be a large nerf for the vast majority of killers. It's better for the game, that some maps have imbalanced lockers, because of the survivors that like to excessively hide.
The actual best solution would be having special "half lockers", that survivors can't fit in, but Dredge/Huntress/Trickster can interact with for their powers. And if maps lacked lockers in some parts of some maps, then BHVR could throw the half lockers there, to help out the 3 killers that want lockers, without needing to nerf every other killer in the game.
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In my opinion, i see that lary's memorial is the worst map for dreage, lockers are not to much + there's no good place to teleport between generator nearby. Its the most unbalanced map for dreage :(
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True. Some maps have really, really, really bad locker placements and it is so sad that out six years anniversary killer suffers so hard. To be fair the devs try to give maps more lockers like coldwind farmhave now more lockers but overall many maps have no good lockers. In addition, these maps not only need more lockers but also good locker placements. This feels sometimes so painful when you have a killer with mobility but you cannot use this mobility to get asap to the other side of the map. I really hope they will work on this to improve maps with more lockers. This would also help Trickster and Huntress but also survivors.
One first and relative easy buff could be to use the TV (from Onryo) and Controlstation (from Xenomorph) placements and on these placeses there will be spawn lockers when you play Dredge. This would make sure that he can teleport to generators. They could spawn a little bit more far away from lockers for a better reaction time on survivors.
However, Dredge needs way more love. Haddie's Calender should be basekit, he is still way too loud (what's the point of a stealth killer which survivors can hear 20meter away from them??) ect. But this is different story.
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Yeah, lary's is definitely tough with bad locker placement ad you get further from the centre of the map. Swamp, coldwind, upstairs of the game are especially bad ones as well in my experience.
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Hiding is a valid strat, actually encouraged by the Devs ;)
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That's definitely an interesting idea! I'd take anything to help out, whether it's an interactable locker for some killers or certain killers spawn more lockers or a map locker pass. They definitely need something for poor dredge especially.
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Excessive hiding is a major game problem.
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Says who? You? Lol. It's not a problem whatsoever, it's a valid strat just like I said.
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Why did you create a post about exit gate placement? lol. It’s not a problem whatsoever, it’s valid.
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No it's not. It's something you made up.
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