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Huntress Mains and Crosshairs

Question for all my huntress Mains out there how do you feel about using a cross hair? Is it cheating or does it make you worse and should I just learn the center of my screen through muscle memory?

I recently decided to p100 Anna with nothing but iron grasp, while it's going as expected lol someone mentioned a Crosshairs in egc last night I wanted to know your guys take on it. Also any tricks that you've picked up along the way would be nice to.

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  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    There are some cross hair tools on steam that have it in their description that they are white listed with EAC so they are not cheating, also some monitors have a feature to make a dot appear, I think they are somewhat annoying to get used to because you cannot rely on them too much because for hatchets you need to look up and down for distance so if you focus too much on the spoz you will hit the ground a lot more than necessary...

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 5,890

    Crosshairs? How tf could I pull this off on my Xbox? Aiming with a controller is quite poopy in DBD.

  • Xxjwaynexx
    Xxjwaynexx Member Posts: 334

    I like this take, thanks I tend to forget that no matter how many sweats there are it's not comp

  • dbdthegame
    dbdthegame Member Posts: 699

    Crosshairs won't make a bad huntress good.

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,888

    I mean I wouldn’t consider it cheating but it certainly won’t help to learning huntress without a crosshair.

  • Hunkulese
    Hunkulese Member Posts: 431
    edited November 2023

    It absolutely helps. If you play 100 games with a crosshair and then turn it off, you're going to be better at Huntress. Nothing about actually playing Huntress or the muscle memory changes with a crosshair on or off.

  • LazyClown
    LazyClown Member Posts: 171

    Anything that's non-vanilla is cheating. It hurts others experience if games aren't played the way they are supposed to be played.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    That would mean that looping in the early DBD games was cheating, because the devs did not account for the possibility of that being a thing...

    Cheating always implies some form of rule broken in whatever way, and when there is no rule against certain things you are not cheating. Using a voice chat can basically never be cheating, that would be ridiculous the same for a crosshair, because you might as well just tape the middle of your screen or have a monitor with a build in crosshair.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,553

    Unless you are changing the game files or something, it's not really cheating. A piece of tape on my screen is no more of a cheat than a golfball on a survivor's W key.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    The point is though the result is the same if you use a tape on the screen or a programm for that... So what I would say is that if you can reproduce it with other means then it is not cheating... You could go out of your way for voice coms and just use a phone and what not...

    And even game files is not necessarily cheating, as long as you're only changing the usual options...

  • Katzengott
    Katzengott Member Posts: 1,210
    edited November 2023

    Playing on low graphics + filters is way more near cheating then a crosshair. Just compare regular DBD content with default DBD on ultra settings. Most maps are so dark by default these days, it's insane. A crosshair can help you to learn muscle memory were the center of your screen / TV is. And at some point, you just turn it off as you don't need it anymore. Low graphics + filters are def more addicting in DBD.

  • myersgoestochurch
    myersgoestochurch Member Posts: 169

    Lol, there's always someone like you somewhere in the comments.

  • myersgoestochurch
    myersgoestochurch Member Posts: 169

    In the rules of dbd vanilla, there is no crosshair for huntress. Therefore, it's cheating.

  • ProfessorDunwich
    ProfessorDunwich Member Posts: 1,514

    Beat me to it. Trying to minimize the massive benefit SWF get from comms by saying it is just “talking to your friends” is comical.

  • egg_
    egg_ Member Posts: 1,933

    Correction, anything that is deemed as bannable is cheating. Exploits are cheating, a cross hair, filters, comms are not

  • BooperDooper
    BooperDooper Member Posts: 275
    edited November 2023

    I like using a crosshair. It's not cheating nor considered cheating in the game. Just helps to see the centre of the screen with anything aiming, most games have a crosshair built in for stuff like that, deathslinger basically has one built in as it zooms in and centres your weapon when using it, unlike huntress or trickster.

    Ofc if you care about using huntress without a cross hair then there's no use in using the cross hair as you'll kinda depend on it. I only play on pc and don't care about relying on crosshair for her.

    If this is about tournaments then that makes sense but general gameplay it isn't cheating lol, I'm pretty sure devs have confirmed this and you will not be banned for using a crosshair lolll, I think even EAC has whitelisted some crosshairs or isn't listed as a prohibited program.

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  • Nun_So_Vile
    Nun_So_Vile Member Posts: 2,424
    edited November 2023

    Depends on how you define cheating I guess. Unfair advantage? Technically, yes. Skill Crutch? Absolutely. If you are worried about being banned (which I highly doubt would happen) then contact BHVR to confirm and see what programs are whitelisted for their EAC.

  • SimpleSage
    SimpleSage Member Posts: 96

    The devs have stated that a crosshair wont get you banned as it doesn't actually modify game files in your favor. Are people going to complain that its cheating? Sure, a sore loser is gonna attack whatever they can to shift the responsibility of their loss. I know there's quite a few Huntress Mains that use a crosshair or something taped to their screen. (I'm pretty sure I remember someone saying there's a Huntress Main who has a cheerio taped to their monitor.)

    A crosshair doesn't throw the hatchet for you, and you're still going to miss many many hatchets. But its nice to have a reference to line up snipes and tight shots, and is useful in learning what hatchet trajectory looks like because it is not a straight line and it certainly doesn't travel infinitely.

    A crosshair just shows you what exactly what direction the hatchet is going to fly. You still need to know how to hit the target on your own. You still need to account for the distance between you and your target, LOS blockers, Survivor pathing and speed, Hatchet trajectory and hatchet speed. Unless the survivor is pretty much point blank aiming the crosshair at the survivor is most likely not going to result in a hit, because you have to predict where the survivor is going when throwing, not where they are currently.

    Long story short, if you want to use it, use it. People who want to complain are going to complain regardless, you're better off not concerning yourself with what they have to say.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    There is also no rules about not using specific monitors that have that function build in or not using tape to have a spot in the middle of your screen... So it is allowed, and if that is allowed then you might as well use a Programm to achieve the same thing, because if you cannot do something against the result u might as well allow different ways to achieve it.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    Also just a general thing, usually it goes the way of everything that is not forbidden is allowed and not the other way around.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    So what? These Mafia type games consist of trickery and deceiving the other people, it does not matter if they are your friends or not, also what exactly would be the benefit? They might still be lying and trying to trick you.

  • myersgoestochurch
    myersgoestochurch Member Posts: 169

    I have a simple question: does huntress have a crosshair in vanilla?

    She doesn't, therefore you're giving yourself an advantage that shouldn't be in the game, simple as that.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    What Monitor is included in the game? Are there now limitations for hardware? Can I still use a mouse that change dpi with a button? Even though it might give me an advantage when flicking?

    Also you did not once make a point that huntress should not have a build in crosshair... Your argument has only been it is not in the game so she should not have it, so my question is why not? It is accessable to every platform, everyone can tape the middle of their screen with soemthing, you don't need any software that might get you banned and what not.

  • NerfDHalready
    NerfDHalready Member Posts: 1,749

    3,7k hour non-huntress main gamer here, have always been considering using a crosshair for huntress and i finally did it after seeing this post, can confirm it doesn't magically make any player a god huntress, i'm still a trash huntress. verticality is still super hard but crosshair allows going for very long range shots you could most likely never hit otherwise. and no i played a bunch of huntress here and there and i could never be perfectly precise with my shots without a crosshair.

  • Xxjwaynexx
    Xxjwaynexx Member Posts: 334

    I've learned that as well in my testing. It helps with knowing the center of the screen but that about it, I still waste 3 hatchets at short loops because I didn't aim high enough, miss because I have no patience etc.

    Another question though how do you guys handle maps like lerys and Hawkins? Are there maps that your just destined to lose on?

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 2,967
    edited November 2023

    Some monitors come with crosshair options.

    If you want to go really low tech, when navigating screens, the circle cursor will always reset to the dead center of the screen, and I've heard some folks will stick a little paper dot or something right in the middle of it for a makeshift aim assist.

    Is it cheating? I don't think so. Is it even an "unfair" advantage? Probably not. Is it kind of a "training wheels" crutch that will keep you from getting better? For sure.

    That said, aiming with a controller is kind of an exercise in frustration, so I can almost forgive it on console.

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 3,002

    Some people may call it cheating but in reality ANYONE could get a cross hair and bhvr would have no way to tell. Its this neat little thing called a piece of paper and taping it to your screen.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 5,890

    I assure you my ol' ass tv does not boast such options! 😂🤣

  • NerfDHalready
    NerfDHalready Member Posts: 1,749

    0 patience here too, i let it go as soon as there is clear los without aiming properly and often those miss.

    not the biggest huntress enjoyer but personally i hate rpd the most as huntress. no long range shots on any indoor map but for chasing lery and hawkins are still fine as you can cut them off but rpd is really bad since half the gameplay is chasing fading scratch marks and that's not hunty's best suit.

  • SimpleSage
    SimpleSage Member Posts: 96

    I play Huntress exclusively and I can tell you Hawkins makes me want to jump out of a window. Rooms on Hawkins are too small, so while there are some spots that you can thread, mostly your just a 110 M1 killer because you can't get proper angles to throw a hatchet unless the survivor is running in a straight line in a long hallway. Lery's and RPD are tied for my favorite indoor maps, what both maps lack in clear hatchet lineups they make up with threading potential, and pulling off sneaky shots survivors aren't expecting is so much fun and not to mention powerful. Blocking LOS isn't just counter play for Huntress, you can use it against survivors as well. Lery's Midwich, and RPD all have Orbital potential on top of this, and let's face it most people don't remember they also need to look up against Huntress on outdoor maps, even less know they need to look up on indoor maps. RPD is the best for orbitals, all outside gens and hooks can be hit with an Orbital and depending on which wing you're on one or both exit gates can be as well.

    I guess long story short, indoor maps don't have to be game over. The best advice I can give is load up some custom matches on indoor maps and just throw hatchets at things. Is there a banister? Try throwing a hatchet through it. Window with boards or broken glass? Throw a hatchet. Hole in the wall? Weird gap in a loop? Hatchet. If you have a friend who will let you play target practice with them even better so you can take your time without the bots rushing you, and bonus if they have Huntress experience and know some of the shots on those maps.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634
  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,846

    I don't see why this is not part of the game, honestly. They don't ban you for using a crosshair and it only serves as another disadvantage for console players that can't set up a crosshair from what I can tell. The best Huntress mains use it anyway.

  • UndeddJester
    UndeddJester Member Posts: 3,382
    edited November 2023

    The classic way is get a pack of those circular stickers people use for categorising folders or whatever, and stick one in the middle of your screen.

    You can use a game with a crosshair to get the right spot instead of using a tape measure... off top of my head, I think the DBD menu cursor spawns in the middle of the screen.

    If you want to be a smart boy, you use a hole punch on it first. Be wary of being accused of "hardware modification" though... 🙃

  • Xxjwaynexx
    Xxjwaynexx Member Posts: 334

    Thanks for the tips bro much appreciated!! Ive just been throwing matches to get practice honestly lol