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The pigs head traps should pause if the killer is still following you in stealth
This is unfair, there is NO counter and you are 100% GUARANTEED to die, there is no escaping the killer, there is no escaping the head trap (because she can grab you off the machine when you have almost finished the animation to attempt to take the trap off).
This is the most ridiculous design flaw I have ever seen.
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Yup, most ridiculous pig exploit since the time she could camp her boxes.
This needs to be addressed
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You realise it would be faster for her to down and hook you right? This is just tunneling in a different form, no more effective than any other killer doing the same, less so in fact.
Any Pig doing this is shooting themselves in the foot, as they're wasting their own slowdown by pursuing the only survivor who can't do gens.
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A pig taunting and harassing a survivor trying to get rid off their trap all game long is what it is: being toxic. Which is why they don't hook...
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But then again you can win a chase, you cannot win this situation, even if you outlooped her you're still unable to get rid of the beartrap. Sure it is not efficient or anything for her, but it is still annoying on the receiving end.
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It is definitely not faster to hook, if you interrupt the survivor trying to take the bear trap off at least 2 times then usually that's enough to confirm that they're as good as dead. No time wasted on trying to chase the survivor or get the other 2 hooks because the time crouching waiting for the bear trap ticker outweighs all that. In it's current form it doesn't make sense to be in the game, there's oppressive and then there's outright ridiculous and that's what this is.
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If you can't escape a Pig while she's permanently crouched then I don't know what to tell you.
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If I find survivor with red alert -> going to die soon, my best play is to not let him finish it. So either follow stealth, where best thing survivor can do is just try to solve and I will have to grab him and slug him, or just slug him from start.
It's simply best play in that situation. I thought there is no need to care about fun of other side, so shouldn't be an issue.
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This is exactly what I was thinking
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I'll break it down into baby steps since everyone on this forum likes things spoonfed and can't understand a simple situation.
You have an ACTIVATED TICKING TRAP on your head
pig chases you in stealth
You've done the first 3 trap removal machines before she arrived and they haven't taken the trap off and the other 2 are across the map
pig chases you in stealth
You run away and she still follows and the timer is STILL going
You DON'T HAVE TIME to lose the pig with 30s left on the trap timer
Pig follows and harasses you on the 4th trap removal machine from stealth
You have to stick the machine because of timer, you can't run to lose the pig because of her in stealth giving NO PAUSE TIMER
= DEAD
Not everything is a damn skill issue man. Stop being so conceited. A design flaw is a design flaw and unless it's addressed it will be exploited and abused. I haven't even mentioned any add-ons for her yet either.
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Listen, I'm so dang slow while crouched, and so low to the ground as well, that surely enough distance can be made combined with line of sight blockers to get away on most maps.
I realize three failed searches are quite the soul crusher, but from my game time with & against her that is not too common to happen. Outside of endgame the Pig is actively throwing the match doing this. You likely will die but your team should all get out unless their complete utter potatoes.
I'm not dismissing your experience, sounds rough, but I have to believe it's kinda rare.
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If the Pig downed you and hooked you like normal in this situation, you still wouldn't have enough time to run across the map and take the trap off, you'd be dead either way. That's assuming she wouldn't patrol the Jigsaw boxes to down you there, too, instead of following you around. The Pig's power is to put survivors in bad situations and then take advantage of the opportunities that arise. Your counterplay is to not get caught in those situations in the first place through smart decisions and, hopefully, smart teamplay. Blame your teammates for doing gens instead of giving time to get the trap off.
Call me conceited if you want, but it doesn't change anything. The Pig is already one of the weakest killers in the game, she doesn't need even more safety padding.
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Well guess what, my teammates are magically potatoes when I come up against her lmao. And SOMEHOW the map is always an open map when this happens. It also doesn't happen to me often but if it's happening to me then it's definitely happening to others. If we put all of that data together then you could kind of say it's fairly common, no?
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so you're wanting the pig to be nerfed again
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I'd honestly prefer to be downed and hooked than go through the experience I went through. I think if I was chased out of stealth I would have been in a win/loss situation rather than a guaranteed loss situation, it would've also given me a chance to get across the map since the timer was paused. I don't want any trap timers changed (even though they do need increasing by about 10-15 seconds), I just want to be given the opportunity to take off the trap without the killer violating me and knowing they can guarantee a free kill without the need to chase for 3 hooks by being aggressive towards the person with the trap.
I'm not saying I dislike the pig as a killer, I'm saying the trap timer not pausing is not fair because its worse than tunnelling at this point. I also get it that she's weak so there should be expected buffs coming with such a nerf, one of them being a slightly increased movement speed when she's in stealth, maybe even a radius warning every 90 seconds showing an outline of players for 1 second.
This nerf could also be the starting point of giving her a chance to be fixed. So yes, I still think we should make traps more fair and help buff her other ways to make up for it. Feel free to throw around some ideas yourself mate.
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By all means, tell us what a survivor being harassed by a crouching pig should do to get their trap off and escape, we're all listening:) unless of course you have no idea what you're saying.
Oh, so you're saying pig is overpowered anyway so why bother? This is just another proof to call for a nerf then.
You can't get off a pig that harasses you, you just can't.
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If she finally gets the buff she deserves, I would be fine with it.
But as she gets shadow nerfed again and again, I don't see a reason to nerf her further. She is already at a pretty bad spot.
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It kind of feels like the dash of Chucky is what pigs dash should be like, and yeah sure head traps should only be game delay anyway, I don't think a gameplay element that does not allow you to show skill is supposed to be the main power... All you do with the head traps is put them on or not, that's it.
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Couldn't tell you the numbers only the devs have those.
But any killer can focus on just a single surv for whatever reason. When most killers do it they can turn the tide in their favor, or early in the trial to make things much easier on themselves. Tunneling for example can often be stupidly effective, but of course it feels awful for the target though.
However in the case of my beloved Piggy doing what you describe in most cases will cost her the match. The other survs should all escape, and the Pig depip and get few bloodpoints too.
If it's solely to watch that one head pop, well... some people only wanna watch the world burn.
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I'm happy for buffs to the pig as long as the I actually have a chance for my head to not "pop" lol. It doesn't happen to me every time I play agaisnt her but ofc but it definitely does happen to someone every time I play, Unless the killer has some morals and doesn't want to do that to survivors.
I will say though, something being super oppressive with hardly any counter play still can't stand just because a killer is weaker when compared to other killers. Buffing here is a whole other thread but this particular way of getting free kills is way too cheap and if done early and effectively enough can easily win you the game.
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