Why can baby killers easily do comp strats?

I actually like the “basekit dead hard for distance… lunge” comparison.

Haven’t ever seen anyone here on the forums present the same statement/ argument.

I did find it very interesting seeing so many Wesker enthusiasts, since his release, petitioning for DH nerfs due to distance gained to a pallet while enjoying such a distanced lunge (bound) perk of a power that was pulling Survivors from the other side of pallets, w/o batting an eyelash at the similarities to both mechanics/ outcomes.

It’s understood that a perk shared VS all Killers, some of whom aren’t capable of Lethal Rushing or Blinking or Virulent Bounding, etc., is seen as a separate scenario.

I still do believe there’s something there of a discussion tho, that just about everyone on here completely avoided way back when it all mattered the most.

Anyway, I’ve mentioned this before to crickets…

Only brought it up to acknowledge your own comparison.

Potential evidence of onesidedness has presented itself, over time… whichever side anyone may feel the forums cater to.

Not really worth discussing anymore, anyway, since DH got its nerf, and the nerf narrative has shifted to the next “great threat,” so I won’t bother.

fwiw, I never used DH save for a couple handfulls of matches, and it never affected me while vs’ing it like it did the DBD masses.

Again, amusing how majority reigns supreme.

often it feels I’m simply forced into playing a game the way everyone else demands it be played.

What exactly is your point? A survivor isn't going to be able to loop a killer for multiple gens because they're aren't better than the survivor. A killer isn't going to win by camping and slugging if they're not better than the survivors. It works both ways.

I play a whole lot of solo queue survivor and it's pretty easy to counter a camping killer. You don't need comms anymore to see what your friends are doing and there are no more hook grabs so a one for one is almost always possible. Just use the time you have to see what the other people are doing and stay on a gen in no one else is.

If you're usually doing the right thing as a solo queue survivor, you'll escape most of the time.

Solve the lament configuration,I can't do Gens, Unhook survivors and out run killer while im harassed by chain

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A number of reasons

1: If you have any experience with FPS games, the killer role should be easy to adapt. The survivor role is a little more unique.

2: Even a bad killer player has to pose a threat to actually have a game. By the game's nature, the killer just has more map to cover, meaning if the survivors are bad the game can still appear close because the killer has to divide his attention.

It's like the first few times a person tries playing a Nurse. Those games are just awful.

3: Killers have the ability to snowball. Even a bad killer can turn around a match quickly if things just fall right for them / the survivors make a mistake.

4: There's no good solution to certain killer strategies. The anti face camp mechanic has been a massive success. You can't prevent a killer from any form of tunneling /camping /slugging / 3 genning without a massive game overhaul because otherwise you've literally taken every killer strategy away.

5: Killers with a high skill ceiling destroy the game. See Deathgarden.

6: The killer doesn't have teammates. If one survivor plays poorly (sleep deprived, drunk, don't do good against the killer, not focused, and other reasons on top of just not being that good) it brings down the whole team.

7: The chased defines the difficulty. The survivor is the chased target, if the survivor plays poorly the killer wins by default, if the survivor plays perfectly however the killer really doesn't have a chance.

Basically, killer is mechanically simple while survivors have to learn a new set of mechanics. The difference between levels of killers is not a mastery of mechanics (it helps, especially on a killer like nurse, but is not as key as survivors), but in improving their game sense.

Tunnelling out a Survivor as quickly as possible is simply one of the most obvious and easy ways to win the game. You'd have to be brain dead not to realise this within the first 5 minutes of playing Killer. I remember in my first ever Killer game I camped someone out and thought to myself, well this is easy! Camping and tunnelling weak players off the hook will boost a baby Killer a long way up the MMR ladder in this game because the MMR rarely puts together equally skilled teams.

It just so happens by coincidence that this is also the only way to win the game at the highest level, since the Survivors are so well co-ordinated and individually skilled the Killer won't have nearly enough time to turn the game around in their favour. DBD is unique in the sense that it's a team game that doesn't give you a full set of communication tools. It would be way too strong and cause imbalances. Comp level play exposes how broken this game becomes when you can use external comms and Survivors have access to a complete picture of the game state at all times. It's the dullest version of the game imaginable.

Luckily for the rest of us, nobody needs to follow "comp strats" to have decent success in public games. This is true when playing as Killer or Survivor. You can sneak around the map, hide, do gens, never get chased once and still manage to escape. You can spread pressure and go for 6-8 hooks before anyone is sacrificed and still win (or at least draw) in most of your Killer games.

I just wish much of the player base realised that.

It's because looping is actually hard on most maps and requires you to understand spawn logic, killer powers and accurately judge distances as well as knowing how to avoid getting mind game'd. Camping and tunneling on the other hand are extremely easy to do and don't require any higher game knowledge whatsoever, yet they are more effective than going for multiple chases in which you would need a considerable amount of skill to do well.