We should see killers ping

I agree.

Food for thought. If they ever got rid of lobbies, how would you be able to see the killer's ping?

Killer seeing survivors. Survivors switching to 4 flashlights in the last second. Seeing players Prestige. Judging if the survivors are a SWF.

Mandy has suggested that the only solution to these issues is to skip the pregame lobby entirely and that they may possibly consider testing it.

And frankly, viewing the killers ping is in the same ballpark as dislaying SWFs. It's a free ticket to lobby dodge, ensuring that killers without top tier Internet never get to play. And if they wanted to enforce a maximum ping they could just make it a requirement before you enter the queue in the first place.

Yup, will always throw my support behind this

That's fine. I genuinely forgot this wasn't already a thing.

You already can. If the survivor has a high ping there's a red bar next to their name even in lobby before the game starts and in-game.

I agree with @Seraphor here. Going against killers with bad connection doesn't feel great but encouraging lobby dodging (exactly what this would do) is probably not the smartest move. These players payed just as much money as everyone else (unless they are on Epic Games) to play the game and if they can't get a match because of this, then that's definitely a terrible thing. There is no warning: "Your ping must be lower than X ms or else you can't play because everyone will dodge you."

Also, how long are you willing to wait for a match? Depending on how many people would dodge this could easily take forever. And worse yet, MMR wouldn't work at all because it's completely ignored when it comes to backfilling. So the overall quality of matches would likely decrease as well. Which in turn causes the same symptoms as the issue it's trying to fix.

I actually haven’t and I think it’s not really reasonable. Killer players would not be happy with removal of pre game lobbies.

but I think it is most important to display the ping the same way for killer and survivors during the match the way it is currently only for survivors when in the menu/esc

for me it’s not about dodging but having same treatment for both sides and being able to see what causes certain issues to not jump to possibly false conclusions.

i am not sure about ping limits.

there should be servers for the Middle East/Eastern Europe and other regions without servers nearby first.

also, you could circumvent ping limits with VPNs anyway I guess and in the end a limit only punishes people that don’t want to a use it and those that do will find their way

Either they should add a ping indicator for the killer in the lobby or put them on that list you can see when hitting ESC during a match. The killer can see the survivors' ping, why can't they see their own and why can't survivors see the Killer's ping?

Or they should protect players from unfair hits like they promised to in the past. There was something that was called HIT VALIDATION at pallets and windows as well that would reject unfair hits. It shadow vanished over the years.

We had seen what happened thanks to hit validation. I don't want to sound too "doom and gloom" but to say that this had the potential to kill the game wouldn't be far from the truth. Survivor queue times at the time took forever and killer queue times were about 5 seconds at the very max. You just can't give the killer the feedback that they get the hit and then take it away from them. Sometimes multiple times per chase.

If that ever came back in this form I'd stop playing. Because this feels like a huge "######### you" from the devs even if it isn't. If you think it's bad to be hit from a distance once or twice per match, then imagine that 4 times as often. With some survivors even starting to pallet camp because 1) they can't be hit and 2) it's funny when the killer suffers. This cannot happen again.

Additional servers in specific regions though, sounds like a good idea. Only, you can't punish the players for BHVR not having them yet and maybe never.

Then don't give me the constant feedback, that I got the hit. The sever deemed, that I shouldn't get the hit. I get it and that is somewhat fine (although this also has implications on this game's balance, if that many hits are laggy). But the part that really threw me and others off was the conflicting feedback. A survivor that goes down / is injured on the HUD, blood splattered across the camera and the audio clue to let you know, you hit the survivor only for it all to disappear a fraction of a second later. There have even been instances where you would get a stack of STBFL but the hit was validated anyway.

Do you have any idea how frustrating that is? It's no wonder there weren't many people playing killer at the time and it's a good thing that is no longer the case. Also, I live in western Europe. Not too far from the server, actually. And I have a very stable connection. So, that wasn't the issue but rather that the smallest of latencies makes a huge difference in this game. Do you want me to move to Frankfurt or London to avoid these issues? Sorry but that's a bit much for a video game.

If there was a way to implement hit validation without the conflicting feedback, then I wouldn't be against it. But that is not going to happen. Because (from what I understand) this isn't possible. The server would need to communicate with the killer's game before they actually get the feedback. We aren't talking about 50 ms here. Not even 30 ms (which is already very solid). But pretty much instantaneous. They could have servers every 1000 km or so and it still wouldn't be enough.

Where do we draw the line? At 15 ms? Well, have fun playing with 5 other people then. Because that is way less than can be expected from anyone. Everything up to 100 ms is considered a fine ping in different games. In DBD that makes a huge difference and looks awful but stocking up on servers and gate keeping the game from everyone who bought it and has a connection that is not at 15 ms or lower would definitely kill the game. 5 people can't buy enough skins to finance the game.

I remember that. It wasn't easy, but it was something. You still have it sometimes when you DH that the survivor screams but is still standing. But tbh I think it's kinda funny when survivors drive their invisible car when I play Wesker.

I wish there was a solution to those stupid hits, but I think there is none. No real one at least. Seeing the Killer's ping during the match when pressing ESC would be something at least. Then I can react accordingly. If I only see the "red bar" the killer can have everything above 150ms (I think) but you don't know exactly, which impacts the way you need to play.

In this post I made half a year ago, I showed a clip of a Bubba who had nothing but advantages with his high ping.

This has to stop.