Current Killer meta is unbearable for soloQ

While Pop and Pain res got "nerfed". Surge got only buff.

In short: Surge were having a pretty long cooldown before. Now it have no cooldown.

Surge and Lethal aren't much of a problem.

It's just Pop and Pain Res. Individually they are fine (albeit boring). But when stacked together they are absurdly strong and that combination needs to go.

The strongest killers in the game are super oppressive with the best perks in the game? Is that really such a surprise?

Also, you have conveniently let out, that Pain Res only works on unique hooks and is a Scourge Hook perk on top of it and your example of Nuse and Huntress isn't the best for what you tried to express. At least pick killers that actually use all of these perks. Surge doesn't do anything on Nurse and very little on Huntress.

"One potato teammate that completely throws the game" matchmaking is still happening a bit too often, but it's a bit better since they raised the soft cap. My solo experience has been so much more positive since that change. Teammate quality skyrocketed overall.

Possibly weird take: I think many of these gen regressions would be a lot more bearable if the value was the same but the gen didn't explode and cause a scream. It's really freaking annoying. I would be so much more ok with Surge if it just fizzled for the same 8% instead of the whole explosion+scream combo every time it proc'd.

I will agree that sitting on a gen through multiple Pain Res procs is not engaging to say the least, but chases have to last longer if more than 2 Pain Res's are happening on the same gen. Not so much a Pain Res+PGTW problem at that point.

Well, the two actually don't stack. Pain Res explodes the most progressed gen by a fixed 25% and then starts gen regression. A regression gen can't be kicked by Pop, unless a survivor jumps right back on that gen, and thats on them, if the killer is near. Jumping back on a regressing gen isn't always the best thing to do, just like hooking a downed survivor isn't always the best way of action, like for example when you know that meanwhile two survivors sit on a 90%+ gen nearby. You need to develop a certain game sense to identify this situations, but its not like soloQ players are helpless to the currents of such an event, its just a bit harder to learn how to swim.

“hold your interact button and believe!”

“There’s not much you can do in soloQ… frustrating you? Play killer”

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I understand sunk cost fallacy when it comes to gens. Once you've had a gen at 90% PR'd down to 40%, you still want to finish the gen. The better option in many cases is to stop regression after the PR and find a better gen. I have killed so many Survivors and had so many soloq teammates die when the Survivor tries to finish a regressed gen when they still have at least 2 other gens, and 1 of them is often a safe one to work on.

This is part of the reason I consider the current version of Pop (30% current) stronger than old (25% max), as people are more likely to throw when you get them in a regression loop with new Pop when the gen is more than 50% completed. A 90% gen gets bumped down to ~60% (from the 30% + the basekit 2.5%), and they attempt to finish the gen instead of healing. That causes a down for another pop for another throw of not healing.

There are two main ways that I can think of 'fixing' this. (1) Make it easier to find another gen after yours has been regressed. (2) Set a max regression per gen of 100%, so that way you never have to do a singular gen more than 'twice'. With a regression limit, you could pop each gen 3 times and never worry about hitting this cap, it is only meant to stop excessive regression on a lone gen. There are some issues that can crop up with both (sending a Survivor to a death hook Surv's gen, or unintentional 3 gen by Killer getting punished, or Survivors failing skillchecks probably shouldn't count towards this limit outside of maybe Overcharge's bonus amount [so the gen regresses 14% but it only counts 4% towards the limit]. heck, regression could even be limited by the 100% per Survivor's progress so that a duo'd gen's max is 200%, and quad gen's max is 400%, but that would require tracking of who progressed the gen by how much.), but it mostly would probably be for the better.

Hey you know what perk made killer unbearable unless you were playing blight or nurse? You got to see it oh I don't know, ever game in a row? Also apparently your getting lucky killers because pain res spawns are the worst thing in existence. Pop is a pretty fair perk, because in this time and age a gen will pop while your in chase. At least one. Jolt is fine as it's an only M1 thing. Lethal yet again is also fine.

Imagine kicking a gen.

Pop is back in the meta?

I think the issue lies in the fact killers are required to run gen regression at all to have an even foothold on the weaker killers, and make even more of an impact on stronger ones.

The problem with limiting perk types opens the door to so many unjustified perk limitations.

Who is to say this would be limited to just gen regression for 'the sake of consistancy'? What if they limit gen progression for survivors? Chase perks? Information on both sides? Would items and addons be effected? Restrictions on perks an entire team of survivors could bring if it meant more than 2 of each type? It would require more balancing BHVR probably doesn't have the time and resources for and create new issues down the line.

A better solution in my opinion is a hard cap on regression/progression %'s for healing and generators entirely. Would have fixed a lot of problems long before a lot of nerfs/buffs as far as I could tell.

You've conveniently left out that gens were raised to 90 seconds and toolboxes were nerfed, among other things. The perks themselves might be weaker than they once were on paper, but that doesn't mean they still aren't too strong together today.

You can put any killer related things in 'current killer meta' in the title.

Even Trapper or Pig. Because solo queue is so garbage.

But I don't think those deserve nerf because of it besides Blight to be honest.