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Is it just me or Skull merchant so busted?
On small maps she's so stupid in controlling the area its insane. Barely even gets punished for hacking her drone in fact probably even gets benefits from it if I recall, doesn't even suffer movement penalty in dropping a drone or whatever.
Don't understand her power. What's her counter?
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The drones won't detect you if you don't move or crouch when the lines pass through you. That includes working on a gen too. You can largely ignore them outside of chase.
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She has little counterplay in loop. You always lose when she uses her power. But she isn't incredibly strong in the 4v1, so playing fast and efficient can work.
She is still a poorly designed killer. Staying still in chase mostly results in a free hit. Getting detected 3 times injures you, keeps you broken and hinders you while you are still detected and gives her a speed boost. So your best bet is to pre drop a pallet and try to leave the loop, when she uses her power. That however will often still result in a stack of lock on and incredibly bad resource efficiency on your part, which means if you can't win the game fast enough, then you won't win at all.
I said before her second rework, that there was no need to remove her, when you could try and fix her instead. Now I realise I gave the devs too much credit on her. They don't even know what to do with this killer. All 3 versions were and are terrible.
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nothing more is needed to be said. she is a lost cause, no other killer can zone that freely, and she can deny at least quarter of the map. how many drones does she have 6? she holds a 3 gen, drops her garbage drones in the potential escape routes and, what do you even do?
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I don't think there's a better display of mob-mentality than that in the World of Blights, Nurses, Spirits, Weskers, Chuckys and Huntresses people call an m1 killer with no map-mobility, weak anti-loop and no remote downing ability "busted".
I can't keep away from these threads, you guys are unbelievably amusing! It's more fun than unironically asking to nerf Pig!
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Yes, she is busted
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I don‘t understand why she gets undetectable, in a round she grapped two of my mates of gens.
Her stealth is almost better than ghost faces and Myers. Hasn‘t she no cooldown on dropping drones?
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Agreed. I enjoy playing and versing skully now. She's a stealth killer now with a bit of anti loop and a bit of info. In my opinion I think she's the best stealth killer now. Stealth on command without crouching or ringing a bell. Can attack whenever she wants out of it and can't have it taken away like ghosty. People say she can counter any loop by throwing a drone up and forcing a ping and this is true but think how much time she is spending doing this. Compared to every other anti loop power this one is definitely not that strong. She used to absolutely suck. I'm not gonna argue that but people just let there hate follow through. I did to before I started playing her. Now that I understand her power she I fun to vers.
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You put faith in the developers? Terrible mistake.
As someone with a Billy profile picture, you should've know better.
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Really depends on matchmaking. You'll know pretty early whether your team has any game sense and are capable of playing around her 3 gen. It's worth sticking out if everyone is W'ing early away from her 3 gen, staying healed, and not trying to bum rush it. No point in playing if one or two teammates are oblivious, dying inside the 3 gen, taking chase into the 3 gen, trying to break the 3 gen while injured, etc. It's a 10-20 minute cutscene if 1 or 2 teammates don't understand the assignment.
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Well, recent history led me to believe they might actually listen to the criticism. They didn't nerf his Engravings at least!
But I see your point. There have been some moments and changes that defy all logic.
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Skull Merchant is a disaster of a killer and needs a total rework from the ground up.
I’ve been saying since her first rendition that she’s unsalvageable, and the fact we’re on her third iteration and she’s still miserable just proves that.
Matches against her only go one of two ways:
- She sets up a 3 gen at the start of the match and wastes everyone’s time by dragging the match on for an hour. Yes, she was nerfed but this is still very possible.
- She drops a drone at every loop in a chase, forcing the survivor to either leave the loop, or get scanned. Rinse and repeat until the survivor doesn’t have any resources left and they’re forced to go down.
She’s just horribly designed.
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So the counter to this killer is basically don’t get caught & finish five gens before she catches someone because as soon as it’s a 3v1 against her it’s game over? I guess the saving grace is that she isn’t very common.
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Some moments and changes? Heh, I'd say almost all of them.
BHVR ruined Freddy, gutted Billy and Deathslinger. There was no reason to think they would do a good job with SM.
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She still needs further nerfs even after her rework. She is still very miserable to play against, i am pretty sure ive never completed a single Skull merchant match without atleast 1 of my solo q teammates dying on hook straight away.
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Keep in mind the same devs who tried to fix her are the same who her made her in the first place.
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Not quite what I said because the 3v1 always works out in the killer's favor.
You need to win faster than she can make you lose. That is about the gist of it. There is little you can do to delay her because she always makes you lose in the 1v1 each step no matter what. But if you can win faster than you lose, you can still beat her. It's far from ideal and I'm not trying to defend her but it's not quite the same.
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She’s the one killer that I wouldn’t mind getting completely removed.
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She has the same counterplay as Hag, disabling the traps and crouch walking. But people suck against hag so I shouldn't be surprised they suck against new SM either
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Thats the prob newbies:
Doesnt understand killer powers
Its killer fault nope the surv fight him once and instead of say how it works they dont but hey we gonna nerf em more
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She doesn’t have enough counterplay.
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It's usually hard to get many people unanimously agreeing on how obnoxious something is. Not the case for SM. She's overstayed her welcome.
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This killers feels like a desperate atemp of trying to save something impossible to save. You can tell this by seeing his kit, it has everything, only thing missing now its that she doesnt make you onehittable as before, but she can make you loose one state of life, getting deep wounds and also hindered, and also shes getting haste buff for each stack you get from the drones, so survivors are always on a loose-loose situation.
On top of this shes also a stealth killer, so even if you crouch in the drone zones, if she has another drone next to yours she can easily sneak and hit you, so staying injured isnt an option here, being crouched either, and even if you deactivate the drone she can activate it pretty easily.
So yeah, as mentioned above, shes better stealth killer than any other killer in the game, has a lot of pros in his kit, and almost no cons, other than having drone that can be deactivated. And the cherry on top is that shes still a great 3-gen defender, not as nasty as before, but shes still one of the best killers in the game to do this.
I think by just removing the stealth factor would make a huge difference, I dont remember having won a match against her since his rework, everyone just kill themselves on hook, nobody wants to play against her. How is this not a problem in devs eyes?
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So I've been playing her for some quite some time now bought her with the free Iri shards.
Most of the matches has been 4K stomps with barely anyone doing drones so that just means Free map control and makes survivors predictable when traversing map. What could have been a straight forward unhook they have to go all the way here and there and give time to the killer. Might not be important alone but stacking it for all four survivors could mean A LOT.
This is the only the killer which I think has ZERO negatives on her power. Clown has to reload and stay still, Nurse has fatigue,Blight has to recharge,etc. This doesn't. No movement penalty at all for deploying drones or any benefits for survivor to hack drones but they have to in some cases.
Almost convinced the best M1 killer in the game.
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