Dev Update - January 2024 #2

100% agree!

Boon:Illumination needs a major buff. If it releases as is, it may be the worst perk in the entire game.

Until i see the "adjustments" im staying sceptical. I have no reason to get my hopes up. Sorry to say. Its a step forward though. Small steps....

Im looking forward to that specific update. My anticipation of the patch is gone however.

I really hope that thinks will turn out for the better but seeing how everything we said got ignored and stuff got added that nobody asked for makes me frightened.

Its good to see though that they finally recognize the importance of the matter. Guess we screamed loud enough.

After the tiny handful of Onryo mains were positive about the changes, they have decided to nerf her again. I cannot believe they have given her a power cooldown basically making her condemn unviable. Just adding cooldowns is absolutely ridiculous, its overheat for onryo. All the survivors need to do is take a tape if they are working on a gen, its not difficult honestly. They also added the ability to see the aura of TVs, so survivors can find tapes easier which gives them no excuse to just sit on a gen right next to a powered TV. If people sit on gens without taking the tape and don't know why condemn is building is this a problem with the killer design or with survivors not bothering to understand how to interact with the killers power?

The cooldown on power also completely removes the ability to build condemn during chase, without making the chase last a ridiculous amount of time. She is now in a weaker state than she was to begin with, as TVs have auras, and it only takes 1 second to put a tape away - these new changes bring back the old problem that survivors have no incentive to take tapes again.

Also the whole point of adding lock in mechanic was encourage hooking over slugging, now slugging them is more viable again which is ridiculous. It seems BHVR don't want any onryo mains to utilise her power effectively, might as well remove condemn completely at this point. She is literally less powerful than she has ever been, and I now can't go back to playing her after all this wait. So so sad honestly.

C33 - pretty much not worth running, It's slightly better than double turn rate after 3 rushes which was never ever worth running. With umbra salts it'll be kinda fun but not good which I guess is fine.

iri tag - Should have gone with my suggestion of making it go by normal cool down standards when breaking a pallet or missing. Wasn't going to use it much anyway but def not now. It'll feel bad to play against but on a good blight it's just a self nerf.

Adren - is definitely the big winner. Not as strong as before but probably his strongest add-on now, not sure how I feel about that.

Back to alch ring/green speed and adren/green speed and now ring/adren

It's disappointing that it feels like BHVR gave us the absolute bare minimum for the FoV slider, instead of giving us an actual FoV range, that went up to something decent like 110 Horizontal FoV... and it's unlikely to change because there wasn't enough outrage on it.

Did BHVR really give us their best effort, to give us a good FoV slider, or did they purposely give us the bare minimum, to see if there was any outrage? If the intended Onryo changes can get reversed (or at least partially reversed), does that mean the FoV slider could have gotten better if enough people had complained about it?

This might literally be the only major quality of life or accessibility feature planned for killers for a very very long time, and it's really just going to be the very bare minimum possible? We can't test out a better FoV range, to see if it affects the kill rate too much? We can't just have a better FoV range, and balance the game accordingly if the kill rate moves too much?

The anti-facecamping system has a range of 16m, it sounds like a lot but it's less than 5 seconds for a 4,6m Killer without mobility (those with mobility can close the distance in less than 3 seconds and projectile Killers don't care).

When a Survivor enters that 16m, the Killer can enter that range without fear of the system doing anything.

In any open maps (which is almost every map) the Killer can easily stay just outside 16m and have a clear view of the hook (which is what most Killers do when they are on the backfoot or just feeling like it), which means the moment a Survivor is spotted going for the unhook they go right back to hook to either force a trade or tunnel.

With STBFL, attacking non-obsession Survivors off the hook was not only powerful but encouraged because the perk works on the Basekit BT hit which means tunneling is even more efficient as not only can you force a trade but the unhooked Survivor can't get very far.

Instead of keeping the perk strong but limiting it's power in camping/tunneling they just double-nerfed the perk by removing synergy with some powers and weakening it's chase potential that weak/M1 Killers used but that the powerhouses (Nurse, Blight) can't really use that much.

Also I had to re-read your comment a few times because did you really say there's no tunneling problem because it's an assym?!

By it's very assymetrical design, Survivors are at a massive disadvantage when they lose one person quickly. Tunneling one Survivor as quick as possible is literally the easiest way to win as Killer since one less Survivor equals one less people on gens and available to do saves, it's the strongest form of slowdown and utterly boring and unfun for the player that spent more time in lobby than playing the game. Tunneling is probably the most complained-about thing in this game.

I am in complete shock. I said no way they could mess Sadoko up again. They proved me wrong. I still prefer this power to the one we had pre PTB. At least Billys got what they wanted. Sadly Sadoko is probably near the bottom of the list again unless the devs do Freddy mains dirty.

Another proof that majority here do not advocate fair changes, but simply want insane nerfs for everything that causes them at least some difficulties.

Adrenaline Vial was one of Blight's worst addons on PTB, which literally had a ton of downsides with 7 tokens, and thanks a lot, BHVR, for not just throwing it in the trash of history, where no one would use it.

People seem to forget that with this addon Blight will also have a much bigger cooldown, so I think it's absolutely in the right place. I really hope that you won't gut him just because of whines.

Also, C33 probably is not bad (need testing), but not with limitation in 3 stuck ups. Remove it and leave it for Iri Tag.

Iri Tag is overnerfed, but number changes is all it needs. 10 seconds for miss and pallet brake, 20 seconds after successful hit. 20 seconds after every action worth only as meme brown addon, even strong side of this addon won't compensate it.

Devs, please consider ask of almost every Blight player and make Rat 3% and Crow 4%. They are overnerfed.

Quick Gambit on the Game will be insanely stupid against m1 killers, but well, seems like another buff to SWF and barely someone will bring it in solo.

Rip STBFL, most pointless and messy nerf in years.

Seems like Champ of Light is another perk we will force to wait nerfs for another half of year. Well, i was ready for it, marketing, understandable.

And no buff to Boon is kinda joke.

Do not even joke about that (though i do find it funny given that they would do that) the devs might actually go through with another unjustified change about that if I still find Sadoko to be boring when I am able to play her. I need Pig as my main. Its a shame if the devs had not changed Sadoko in the first place she wouldn't be where she is now and her two rework slots could have gone to someone who needed them. I have no idea why the gave her the first rework nobody asked for and then on the second rework they had it pretty much bang on and then screwed it up for the live version. I actually think we should make a union for Sadoko she has been done dirty.

If i lose Pig too, im quitting.

I'm really glad the Onryo changes are being re-evaluated, but it's still astonishing how little BHVR seems to understand their own game sometimes.

With Billy and Onryo here, it's gold in one hand and poop in the other.

Onryo is my favorite killer (and highest prestige killer), and I stopped using her as much after the last major change (because it was unhealthy), and was really excited to see what they would do this time. The changes were good (but nor everything I'd hoped for), but then they decided to essentially neuter the best part (locking in condemned) of the rework because they don't seem to understand tunneling? Madness.

I'll just keep her on the bench for a while longer, I guess.

My one additional request would be that please, for the love of god, give her something to help her in chase. It doesn't have to be busted, but anything would help.

Yeah it's just a flat out NERF at this point. I know OPW is sad about this!

"We heard you didn't want a cooldown on Sadako's power, but some killer players were using her power with some semblance of tactics or planning, so we gave her one anyway."

Blighted tag got the wrong change. Now it will be a worthless iri ( make the cooldown 10 seconds on a pallt break or miss ) . Sure it was to strong on ptb but then you guys gutted it entirelly. Why are things 8 or 80 ?

can't we have a middle ground . Same with sadako . Why not try small changes instead of bringing something from busted to trash . Ruin and ds could be 4s and 150% regression. So many changes just cut values in half instead or making small tweaks to see how it lands.