Why people don't play much Artist & Dredge?

They're not everybody's cups of tea, which is fair.

Reaching Artist's skill floor is simple: place crow that forces survivor to go there and either M1 them or get a free injure; it's not really satisfying to do. However, learning her more experimental and advanced techniques with her power... that consumes a lot of brainpower that not everybody is dedicated to doing. I've seen some crazy Artist plays where they create entire setups with multiple crows at once and injuring survivors with them, they're insane. There's a lot of strategy going on there but it's really, really difficult to learn. Crossmap shots aren't easy either. Artist can be really fun if one takes the time to master her, but simply learning her basics and playing her in the simpler playstyle isn't very satisfying, leading less people to be willing to master her.

Dredge I feel like is moreso people struggling to understand how and when to Remnant and being too stressed from locked lockers, leading them to being discouraged to learn them.

I feel like both have a very unique playstyle that isn't what a lot of people are looking for. Plenty of people are more comfortable on something like Wraith where the power is a buff, but in the end you just play M1, or they want the bigger challenge of Nurse/Blight/Billy which comes with far more oppressive strength.

Personally I think Dredge is a lot of fun. I love the mobility, I love night time, and I love countering loops with his remnant, but I can also see why people don't want EVERY chase to be a remnant mind game exercise.

I play a ton of Artist, she is my main. Her gameplay is way deeper than "place a crow to deny loop" as many people think. She is not easy to play well, probably this is the reason.

What about Dredge, i used to play a lot on him, i really loved him, but he is too weak against good survivors and depends too much on lockers rng. I still play him from time to time, some of the best matches i had were with him, but overall experience with him is depressing.

Dredge is really bad. Bottom 5-7 worst killers in the game. Artist not that fun to play.

Dredge is probably because of his inconsistencies. One thought is to make him be able to teleport to totems, double the amount of them, and to be able to rekindle them. We havent had a killer power involving totems yet, and Dredge would be a perfect fit for this. The rekindle part is so theres still counterplay, but his power cant be taken away from him.

Would it completely fix his issues? No. But it definitely wouldnt hurt

Well said. She’s so much fun when learning her outside of the clear and obvious strategy that most do. I get she gets a bad rep because of that but there’s so much more potential with her.

Yeah, many people here said she is boring. It's probably because they use crow only in pallets and windows, what leads to most obvious counterplay from survivors -> run to another loop. And i can understand why it's boring. But when player starts to use crow in any textures, predicts survivor's moving and thinking strategically, it's completely different gameplay and another killer.

Good Artist also will harass survivor on gens and collect info across the map with birds. It's crazily satisfying to chase one survivor and give hit across the map on another. This killer really rewards you a lot for invested time and stops being boring when you explore her full potential.

I am a bit surprised. Having played both, I enjoyed both playstyles.The Artist has some creative styles of play, especially double-gunning and using angles to even herd Survivors. The Dredge is map-specific, but is a lot of fun to play as, especially when getting locker strikes!

There are other, less interesting Killers out there. Then again, flavours change a lot. Things may change in future - we'll see.

Artist is pretty hard to play, her chase music is kinda annoying, and her power isn't really that unique/fun.

Dredge is reliant on maps that aren't loaded with loops and has access to lockers everywhere, his anti-loop is pretty lame, and he isn't strong.

Glad to help, friends!

I don't like Artist visuals, lore and power so i never ever play her, but Dredge is in my rotation alongside Xenomorph, Executioner, Nemesis and Singularity.

Problem i have with Dredge is how sad it's power can be. I spawn on Midwich and i teleport a lot, i can be a terror on the map, which is super fun !

Then i end up on Coldwind or others, i have almost no lockers anywhere... I wish it was like Xenomorph or Onryo (stations and Tvs next to gens) where you have at least some lockers next to generators that are guarented plus the others around the map.

The best part about Dredge is the locker teleport and in a lot of matches you just can't really use it. Dredge should have more lockers + some guaranted next to objectives, faster teleportation when not on nightfall and maybe less cooldowns to use it's power so it can teleport more often.

I usually plays the boat key and ottomarian writting to compensate for this lackluster basekit.

I would probably let the cooldown to exit a locked locker as it is because it is your only way to protect yourself and works only once so it's annoying but alright.

On a side note, i think Dredge is amazing even if it is the least fun killer to play in my roaster imo, it reminds me of Amnesia and the atmosphere it creates is really cool, sad part is, it is very inconsistent and can be miserable to play from games to games. It deserves some loves from the devs.

I don't know why so few people like Artist. I feel like she's one of the few killers who has a low skill floor, a high skill ceiling, and can be viable at the highest skill levels. I don't understand the people who feel her power is boring, because I like how tactical it is, but that's just me.

Dredge is, unfortunately one of the most RNG dependent killers in the game. Locker spawns are more random than Sadako's TV's or Xeno's tunnels, and, for some reason, the number of lockers has been decreasing on every map released since Dredge, which seems counterintuitive. It also seems like the ability to lock lockers hurts him really badly. Like, it seems that they could remove that mechanic and he'd be fine, given that he doesn't have any kind of dashing power. I hate that this is the way it is, though. If he were more reliable, I'd play him more. I love his power, but it seems like he's too restricted to be consistent.