Should anti-facecamping be buffed?

Not too much, just to ensure survivors can't exploit it, but yeah I would probably buff it a little bit. If you stand on the outside edge of the zone that fills the meter, it doesn't even fill up all the way before you reach 2nd hook stage. Most of the killers that were good at denying unhooks from close up before, can still do it almost as well (if not just as well) from 16m away and just move in once a survivor gets close (or use their ranged attack if they have one).

I'd also like if other survivors were able to see the meter on the HUD, it could just be like the gen progress icon we already have but with a hook icon instead.

I would love for them to do something about Myers facecamping with tombstone

The meter progresses far too slow regardless of the situation. Huntress and many other killers still hold the ability to camp the hook from outside the hook radius for the bar to progress while still not losing or risking anything by doing so. Anyone who tries to go for the rescue will still be downed just the same before able to do a proper hook trade.

The meter stops moving as soon as a survivor enters the hook radius, instead of progressing slowly. Makes no sense and encourages Killer to facecamp.

When a survivor is downed near the hook, despite not having the ability to unhook the survivor, the meter is still paused. THIS MAKES NO SENSE, even if you factor in the possibility that the survivor may get back up with a perk and then rescue.

So many years of waiting for anti-camp feature to be implemented to the game and BHVR fails to implement a proper one. I simply cannot understand how hard it can be. You have so much feedback from your community and you still dont listen.

AFC at least make them back up from the hook.I feel it make saves slightly easier when the killer don't have clear line of sight of all approaching angles. Which is better than before but u kinda right about it still. It just face camping from a distance 🤣🤣

People love playing semantics so i see no point in debating what is actually face camping. I think the system is acceptable in it current state

I wish killers couldn't slug someone coming in for the rescue to disable the mechanic. I got proxy camped by a Wraith, he downed a guy trying to unhook me, which disabled the unhook progression and proceeded to face camp me for free whilst watching the guy bleed out.

The Devs dont want an actual useful system. They wasted their time on a system which only works against actual facecamping, because it almost never happened anyway that the Killer just stands in front of the Hook.

And now camping is even more frustrating, because you see the Killer right there and have a bar which does nothing.

Better not bother with it, it was never intended to be helpful, so dont expect it to be useful at any point.

That addon in general needs a rework.

I don’t know why people keep saying it’s intended to stop face camping when it can’t even do that. Tombstone Myers can completely bypass the system if he wants to lol.

when you jump off he gets stunned for 7 seconds no matter if he has enduring or other perks

Afc being buffed to counter proxy camp would lead to more issues like small maps/floors, non mobile Killers struggling due to their design making them not viable for moving across the map.

Unless BHVR comes up with some basekit for non mobile killers to get across the map faster, proxy camping can't be punished.

What metric are you using to even hint that survivors get free escapes? What do you think the solo q win rate is (by win rate i mean 3 out or better)? Despite what people on this board try to pretend, you are not playing against tournament swfs 99% of the time.

I think it can be done, but not within the framework BHVR has picked. The 'bar builds until self-unhook' thing just won't do anything.

If you want the killer to stop camping, make the anti-camp disable upon them doing something else.

My idea was to slow the hook timer based on how many survivors are on gens, but make the effect scale exponentially. So if all other survivors are on gens, the timer barely progresses, but if the killer forces even one survivor off a gen, the pressure is back with survivors.

"It feels like it does nothing outside of face camping. Proxi camping or even few meters away from hook is still pretty much good and this does nothing to adress it."

That was literally the entire point. As in, stated by the devs themselves. They don't care about proxying; they just hated facecamping.

Unfortunately it was just against FACE camping not proxy.

If you talk about it to someone who play killer I can tell you they sometimes have a different point of view of the situation. Like yesterday someone was mad at me in chat lobby, saying I was proxy camping but the reality was that I heard them running toward the hook, they were not trying to hide.

I am not saying it's always the case, there will always be troll, but yeah sometimes it's not that they want to, it's just obvious.

No it's just a cheap move.

Unless you face a competitive swf, tunneling unprovoked at 5 gens is nothing carefully planned. It's simply a lack of skill. That's why so many fail to get anything done in lights out. They rely too much on perks, add-ons, camping and tunneling. Due to the nature of lights out you will loose your target in the dark if youre not carefull so tunneling might not even be possible if your skill is too low. Unfortunately some players bypass that completly by facecamping + tunneling or playing legion.

A real tactic would be remembering the whereabout of survivors, planning from which side to approach, mindgaming, selecting gens to defend in synergie with your power. Determing when to leave a chase. It's about effective time management + making good choices fast.

I have not seen any tunnel killer who mastered these. You can get your 4k without perks but you have to be really good with your killer. With perks and add-ons you don't need to be a true master at the killer power but still need skill. If you just tunnel you need nothing. Especially not skill as the match collapses on it's own if the choosen survivor was not very good himself and dies within 3 gen's left. Which happnes more often lately because I noticed more killers going for the survivor with the lowest amount of hours in the game.

I play both sides equally and I think I would get extremly bored if I would switch to easy mode. Where is the challenge? Where is the exitement? If I switch a game to the easiest playmode I can't brag about having an easy game, or high skill level, thats cringe. I mean braggin itself is cringe already but you get what I mean.