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Ultimate Weapon is Bananas

Snowbawlzzz
Snowbawlzzz Member Posts: 1,419
edited February 23 in Feedback and Suggestions

What were they thinking when they designed an info perk that gets around distortion AND works on-demand? Why would you ever equip BBQ or Whispers over this? Seeing all survivors at the start with lethal pursuer will net you exactly one chase every game, Barbecue can potentially get no value if the survivors are hiding or doing gens in safe zones, Whispers only gives you a vague idea that there are one or more nearby survivors, and spies is pretty much completely random in terms of value. Just gut this no-effort value engine perk for the sake of the game, please.

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  • Chilli_man2400
    Chilli_man2400 Member Posts: 2,914

    It’s going to get changed in the next mid chapter along with DS, Genetic limits, this is not happening, Adrenaline and distressing.

  • Vorahk08
    Vorahk08 Member Posts: 267
    edited February 23

    Whispers has been a bad perk for years now. BBQ, like most aura perks, works without the survivor having any knowledge of it working, which gives the killer an element of surprise, and that's one of its advantages over Ultimate Weapon. Ultimate Weapon seems more powerful than it is because survivors know that the killer knows where they are. Perks like BBQ give the survivor's position away without them knowing. That's why it's powerful on characters like Ghostface and Huntress. It allows the killer to catch the survivors relatively flat-footed. Ultimate Weapon never does this, because survivors always know when it's been activated. It's like a single sonar ping with the killer at the center. You get a read on all survivors' positions now and only now. Aura perks like BBQ are x-ray vision, you see survivors without them seeing you, and you get a sense of where they're going.

    Ultimate Weapon does also have a hard counter in the form of Calm Spirit, which, unlike Distortion, always works in exchange for the penalty to certain action speeds.

    Edit: Forgot to add about Spies-it's kind of a training perk to get newbies to understand that the birds can help them. At least, that's how I see it.

  • Venusa
    Venusa Member Posts: 1,489

    It's disgusting on Killers like Nurse, Blight or Oni who can down survivors really fast and snowball one by one.

  • LazyClown
    LazyClown Member Posts: 171

    In a game where almost no strategy for killers that simply exists, it only makes sense why this perk is around.

  • VomitMommy
    VomitMommy Member Posts: 2,257

    There is actually not that many killers, where I use Ultimate Weapon over other info perks.

    I use it on Oni (kinda broken for him) and Deathslinger (can't waste any time looking for survivors).

    But for most killers aura reading is simply better. Ultimate weapon is broken on fast killers, which could be fixed by simply decreasing duration after first scream, so you can't go around whole map. Basically effect will end like 5 seconds after first scream or something, then it's fine perk imo.

  • Nos37
    Nos37 Member Posts: 4,142

    Should the perk go on cooldown early if the killer hits a survivor with a basic or special attack, to limit snowballing?

  • TheTom20
    TheTom20 Member Posts: 484

    You can use this against the killers what i advise you do if it triggers is don't run around like crazy panicking leaving scratch marks everywhere but to move away or hide. More often that not when i have used this perk it's the scratch marks that's left behind from panic that makes me find a survivor not ultimate weapon itself. I applied this when i have been survivos an it's funny to watch a killer waste 10-20 seconds looking for you

    Also if you're good in chase you can deliberately be near the killer to pull them away from your team mates an the gens run away from any gens you know are being worked on or to stronger areas of the map.

    All the best

  • Zeidoktor
    Zeidoktor Member Posts: 2,065

    Odd as it may sound my own main use of Ultimate Weapon has been in stealth builds, using the Blindness effect to hide which generator I've Trail of Tormented.

    I also think it's unironically a decent choice on Freddy, as it lets you find awake Survivors more easily.

  • KA149108
    KA149108 Member Posts: 371

    Haha have you ever gone against pig with UW. Trying to remove a ticking trap and you get pulled off and have to start all over again.