Please don't nerf the Bloody Fingernails add-on of Sadako, it's fine, that is not her problem.
I think the add-on is fine if we consider that:
- TVs can always be deactivated by survivors, and in case of issues with the character, the problem is NOT the speed after the teleport, but something related to Condemn itself.
- With decent reaction time, survivors almost always have a chance to react and leave the loop completely fine, or vault a window or pallet or drop a pallet at the right moment, or pre drop the pallet.
- On the macro game, it doesn't change too much without it.
- It's perhaps one of the most fun things about Sadako, removing it would suck.
- In the very end, the issues on the macro play coming from Sadako come from the new/casual players not knowing how to counter her. The issue here is that there are no useful enough tips, no training on how to really counter her, and the ones in the loading screen EVIDENTLY don't get read.
TLDR / To conclude, players need tips in real time on what to do to counter her, nerfing her add-ons or basekit if a bit too strong is not the way to go, otherwise we'll keep bottlenecking the killers' potential just because survivors don't learn (or worse don't wanna learn for psychological bias).
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i do not see them nerfing it because taking tapes turns off television and aura of tv tells survivor she tp's meaning that survivor is always pre-running.
I still wish her flicker and condemn were a bit more well-rounded.
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The best way to make it fair, would be to return her back to her OG version with the buffs. There everything was obvious and it wasn‘t too overwhelming for new players, because there was no form of global condemned.
They also have to make it clearer, that the locked in stacks can‘t be removed. I wrote with someone after a round and he told me that he ran around and delivered tapes, which didn‘t help him at all.
Behavior can make unlimited changes like the TV auras, that will only help people, who know how to play against her and the auras make it very annoying to play against those people.
Another Problem is her pick rate, it‘s so low that many people never got the chance to play against her or very rare, which then gives no way to learn her counter and until you encounter her again you already forgot what to do.
Behavior could also make tips, that appear in game, which then tell you „turn off TVs to protect yourself from the curse“ for example.
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at this point, i just want my flicker to be relevant in the chase. Either condemn or Flicker has to strong. right now neither of them are good. unfair for how pig get a good ambush while sadako gets nothing.
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Yes it‘s so sad, how they left her. The changes were a good start, but her condemned counter makes her chase and condemned useless. I also want her to be more unpredictable and have better flicks.
I didn’t want those pig buffs, I wanted trap buffs. She is a killer from a franchise, which is all about deadly traps (saw) and now she has a bit better coup de grace. She really lost her identity.
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"With decent reaction time, survivors almost always have a chance to react and leave the loop completely fine".
This completely disregards the fact that roughly 50% of the playerbase is somebody's elderly grandmother. What are Agatha, Gladys or Betty gonna do?
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that is the same with Sadako. Lost identity. Sadako's condemn was fine before. All they needed to do is nerf numbers like instead having 0.75 condemn, they could nerf it to 0.33 and instead tapes being 2 stacks, just nerf to 1. keep gameplay the same. unlimited tp wouldn't be so bad because you would take 6 tv TP's to build 2 stacks of condemn.
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I can‘t say whether it would be a good idea. It would make people ignore her condemned until they are at 5,..stacks and then the 2stack clutch comes maybe into play or all your condemned build up is lost instantly. It could still hold the same issue, that people just turn off most TVs around them, which renders her TVs near people useless, but maybe it solves the issue?
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I have not seen anyone propose nerfing this addon. If sadako teleports during chase it plays a loud sound que, you can see the aura disappear and you just turn a 180 and the speed boost means nothing.
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Nobody said anything about nerfing bloody fingernails. Her issue isn’t that. Survivors have way too much freedom with shutting off her TVs. Say goodbye to mobility and a lot of your condemn pressure.
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In my opinion i think it should be basekit and then rework the add-on
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i prefer have a weak mechanic that has potencial to give rewards rather then one that doesn't work at all vs good players. It just means that i am going have to work much harder to get wins. with old ring drawing, I'll still get 1 condemn for healing. I don't even get ring drawing in this version of the killer.
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Completely agree. Therefore I want her first version back. It was difficult to condemned people, it was optional and if someone wanted to deactivate your TVs it wasn‘t free, which could hurt them in the end.
Currently I think ring drawing has still both effects, which is nice, but when they patch it, it will be useless.
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? So what, we should make loops extremely big and safe just because some have bad reaction time? That doesn't make any sense, the game is balanced around fast reaction time, just think about all the projectile killers.
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Of course it makes no sense. It was a joke.
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The increased speed duration after Projection I feel was a token measure for BHVR to try and alleviate the concerns of survivors using the TV auras to counter them completely in chase. The only way to make this extra duration useful though is to use the Bloody Fingernails add-on, without it survivors can still abuse the TV auras and make Projection for anything other than condemn a joke.
The add-on 100% does not need a nerf as it stands. If it does get nerfed, then the white TV auras for survivors needs to be addressed and nerfed as well.
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Unfortunately the condemn still feels like a joke :(
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Her mobility feels against god player the same :(
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Ok. Sometimes it's hard to tell what people believe, and decide to sustain or not.
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Yeah, sometimes I log in drunk and just crack jokes and leave lmao
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Are fingernails being complained about? They're fine in my book.
If any addons need any kinds of change, it's buffs to Pinwheel/Sea-Soaked Cloth, Tape Editing Deck, VCR and Iridescent Tape. Just to name a few off the top of my head.
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No, nobody has complained about this add-on. I’m really not sure why this post was even created truthfully if I am being 100% honest.
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